1 00:00:05,580 --> 00:00:02,210 you're locked into inception radio 2 00:00:08,870 --> 00:00:05,590 network superior Wisconsin 3 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:12,500 your tune in tonight vision radio 4 00:00:18,870 --> 00:00:16,110 exposing the truth one secret at a time 5 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:18,880 prepare yourself as we explore the 6 00:00:25,019 --> 00:00:21,369 shadow worlds of suppressed history 7 00:00:27,569 --> 00:00:25,029 secret knowledge forbidden religion and 8 00:00:48,690 --> 00:00:27,579 shine a light on the conspiracies to 9 00:00:48,700 --> 00:01:10,210 nothing 10 00:01:10,220 --> 00:01:16,900 welcome to night vision radio 11 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:19,280 good evening everybody welcome to night 12 00:01:23,270 --> 00:01:21,510 vision radio I'm your host Renee Barnett 13 00:01:26,510 --> 00:01:23,280 and we have an exciting show planned 14 00:01:28,670 --> 00:01:26,520 tonight before we get into that I just 15 00:01:31,370 --> 00:01:28,680 want to remind everyone to please check 16 00:01:32,990 --> 00:01:31,380 out return of the Troubadour calm and 17 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:33,000 like returning the Troubadour on 18 00:01:38,900 --> 00:01:35,490 Facebook these guys are working hard to 19 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:38,910 encourage musicians all musicians and 20 00:01:43,730 --> 00:01:42,000 including young musicians to realize how 21 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:43,740 important music is to everybody I mean 22 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:45,930 my goodness it's the soundtrack of our 23 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:51,210 lives and music can you know make you 24 00:01:56,660 --> 00:01:54,960 rise to anger they can soothe you it can 25 00:01:58,430 --> 00:01:56,670 you know bring back all kinds of 26 00:02:00,680 --> 00:01:58,440 memories music is very important in 27 00:02:02,450 --> 00:02:00,690 everybody's life and it's important that 28 00:02:05,150 --> 00:02:02,460 our musicians are working towards 29 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:05,160 sending out positive messages so return 30 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:08,160 to the troubadour has set up a contest a 31 00:02:14,090 --> 00:02:10,530 song contest and they're looking for a 32 00:02:18,650 --> 00:02:14,100 song that has a positive message that 33 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:18,660 that's uplifting and they they want to 34 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:20,370 help musicians enough that they're 35 00:02:24,620 --> 00:02:22,680 willing to put up a grand prize it's 36 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:24,630 like five thousand dollars in gold coins 37 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:26,640 so check them out if you're a songwriter 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:29,310 or if you know one send them over to 39 00:02:34,729 --> 00:02:32,370 return the tutor calm and please like 40 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:34,739 them on Facebook thanks so much we 41 00:02:38,539 --> 00:02:36,090 appreciate that those guys are doing 42 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:38,549 good work anyhow tonight we're here to 43 00:02:44,870 --> 00:02:42,330 talk about some new discoveries I don't 44 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:44,880 know if everyone that's listening has 45 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:48,110 heard of the Newport tower but it's a 46 00:02:53,180 --> 00:02:51,209 mysterious little structure in newport 47 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:53,190 rhode island that has long been the 48 00:03:00,320 --> 00:02:56,690 subject of speculation of research of 49 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:00,330 legends and myths and tonight we have 50 00:03:05,390 --> 00:03:03,090 with us court lindell who's been here 51 00:03:08,180 --> 00:03:05,400 before you know court he's an author and 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:08,190 a researcher and archaeologist and he's 53 00:03:15,620 --> 00:03:12,810 been into this subject matter and he has 54 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:15,630 introduced me to a young man by the name 55 00:03:21,050 --> 00:03:18,690 of Gary giannotti from Connecticut who 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:21,060 has done extensive research at the 57 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:22,890 Newport tower in fact it's just down the 58 00:03:26,990 --> 00:03:24,690 road from his house 59 00:03:30,730 --> 00:03:27,000 and so it's been there lots and lots of 60 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:30,740 times he's also very expert at Reading 61 00:03:36,980 --> 00:03:34,560 engravings in in the like seals Flags 62 00:03:38,690 --> 00:03:36,990 family crests all that type of 63 00:03:41,420 --> 00:03:38,700 information so this is all going to come 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:41,430 into play tonight with what Gary found 65 00:03:47,630 --> 00:03:44,250 just the last in the last few days at 66 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:47,640 the Newport tower so good evening and 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:50,810 welcome to court and Gary welcome guys 68 00:03:57,650 --> 00:03:53,850 good evening good evening great to be 69 00:04:00,140 --> 00:03:57,660 here hi Gary hello how are you so glad 70 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:00,150 you could be here now Court you want to 71 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:01,890 just start us out real quickly and then 72 00:04:06,230 --> 00:04:04,050 we're going to let Gary run with it and 73 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:06,240 talk about what he's recently found 74 00:04:10,190 --> 00:04:07,920 there but can you just give us a little 75 00:04:13,150 --> 00:04:10,200 bit of background on the Newport tower 76 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:13,160 sort of just common knowledge and also 77 00:04:16,910 --> 00:04:15,570 possibly some of the theories about 78 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:16,920 where it might have come from or what 79 00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:19,769 the eight each of it might be certainly 80 00:04:25,750 --> 00:04:23,280 well we know that really the origins of 81 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:25,760 the Newport tower is a large mystery 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:28,890 that really nobody knows when it was 83 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:33,330 built it appeared on old maps such as 84 00:04:39,230 --> 00:04:35,730 the the late 16th century map of 85 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Verrazano said there was a structure in 86 00:04:44,150 --> 00:04:41,970 that location so that's very interesting 87 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:44,160 and that fits some of the theories will 88 00:04:51,290 --> 00:04:47,430 discuss but it really is a mystery as to 89 00:04:54,530 --> 00:04:51,300 exactly when it was built and really the 90 00:04:58,790 --> 00:04:54,540 three major theories on that are that it 91 00:05:01,460 --> 00:04:58,800 was a colonial windmill built in early 92 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:01,470 colonial times and it is referred to in 93 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:05,250 governor Arnold's papers briefly here 94 00:05:12,260 --> 00:05:08,760 and there as being a windmill but we 95 00:05:14,420 --> 00:05:12,270 know that could be the hidden meaning of 96 00:05:17,210 --> 00:05:14,430 it or interpretation of what it is for 97 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:17,220 those that were in the know and so if 98 00:05:21,230 --> 00:05:19,620 the the second so the windmill park 99 00:05:24,170 --> 00:05:21,240 could have been a cover story basically 100 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:24,180 that's possible and it is entirely 101 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:26,490 possible that in the end that could be 102 00:05:31,820 --> 00:05:29,130 true but there's lots of evidence that 103 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:31,830 people like Scott Wolter and Jim Egan 104 00:05:37,290 --> 00:05:34,650 have gathered that that says that is not 105 00:05:40,210 --> 00:05:37,300 the case and it was built earlier 106 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:40,220 so next we would have Jim Egan's 107 00:05:46,990 --> 00:05:42,560 theories about the Newport tower being 108 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:47,000 an orologi on or a tower meant to keep 109 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:49,460 time or mark a position on earth would 110 00:05:55,150 --> 00:05:52,430 be part of my theory but I agree with 111 00:05:58,450 --> 00:05:55,160 him in that that it seems to fit a 112 00:06:00,550 --> 00:05:58,460 series of towers that were built in the 113 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:00,560 legacy of the Tower of the winds and 114 00:06:07,060 --> 00:06:04,330 Athens which over time gained a lot of 115 00:06:10,810 --> 00:06:07,070 talismanic and spiritual overtones that 116 00:06:14,220 --> 00:06:10,820 in an almost alchemical way or pagan way 117 00:06:17,530 --> 00:06:14,230 in addition but but also ultimately 118 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:17,540 practically works to mark territory or 119 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:20,330 mark a point on the earth that can be 120 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:22,750 compared to other locations on the earth 121 00:06:30,580 --> 00:06:26,560 so Jim's theory is that people during an 122 00:06:34,570 --> 00:06:30,590 Elizabethan times came and built the 123 00:06:38,290 --> 00:06:34,580 Tower for very similar purpose purpose 124 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:38,300 as to what I'm saying and that's how it 125 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:40,010 was done and he's gathered a lot of 126 00:06:44,590 --> 00:06:42,650 evidence to back that up including 127 00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:44,600 records of expeditions there by 128 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:47,510 Englishmen and the possible naming of 129 00:06:52,990 --> 00:06:50,120 Newport Harbor the d River after John 130 00:06:57,370 --> 00:06:53,000 Dee who may have been involved in that 131 00:07:01,420 --> 00:06:57,380 and that's entirely possible so John Dee 132 00:07:04,630 --> 00:07:01,430 is a is a well-known Alchemist and so if 133 00:07:06,850 --> 00:07:04,640 he had anything to do with it certainly 134 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:06,860 you might think that there might be some 135 00:07:11,590 --> 00:07:09,050 sort of celestial alignment or or 136 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:11,600 something about the particular placement 137 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:14,930 of it right and John Dee also taught 138 00:07:21,070 --> 00:07:17,480 navigation to the Royal Navy for quite a 139 00:07:23,590 --> 00:07:21,080 long time so he was well stin finding 140 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:23,600 his location on the earth using the 141 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:26,630 technology of the day and really was the 142 00:07:31,090 --> 00:07:28,010 kind of person that would have been 143 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:31,100 privy to any hidden information or more 144 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:33,770 accurate means of doing this and i 145 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:36,650 believe the gym Egan's view is that the 146 00:07:42,190 --> 00:07:38,450 building of the tower had something to 147 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:42,200 do with John Dee yes that I that and so 148 00:07:46,659 --> 00:07:43,760 what time period would that have been 149 00:07:49,870 --> 00:07:46,669 that would have been the the late 16th 150 00:07:52,330 --> 00:07:49,880 century or the late 1500s into 151 00:07:54,190 --> 00:07:52,340 the Elizabethan era which was right at 152 00:07:57,390 --> 00:07:54,200 the end of the century there into the 153 00:08:01,450 --> 00:07:57,400 beginning of this of the 17th century 154 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:01,460 but I know what I've seen some of the 155 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:05,050 photographs from what gary has found and 156 00:08:09,970 --> 00:08:07,430 which by the way you know go to his 157 00:08:11,590 --> 00:08:09,980 Facebook page it's public and have a 158 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:11,600 look at some of those pictures there's a 159 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:13,730 couple things on my facebook but but but 160 00:08:21,310 --> 00:08:18,530 not many but it appears that there may 161 00:08:24,130 --> 00:08:21,320 be some dating actually written into the 162 00:08:27,580 --> 00:08:24,140 stone which would put it earlier than 163 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:27,590 that if that's the case and if you know 164 00:08:33,130 --> 00:08:29,210 I know there's some experts that are 165 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:33,140 looking into Gary's finds if it should 166 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:37,250 be corroborated that it was you know an 167 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:40,610 earlier date it doesn't necessarily mean 168 00:08:46,180 --> 00:08:42,590 that John Dee wasn't involved with the 169 00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:46,190 Newport tower in my mind exactly it it 170 00:08:51,790 --> 00:08:48,800 would just mean that you know he was 171 00:08:53,110 --> 00:08:51,800 using it or actually you know had 172 00:08:55,450 --> 00:08:53,120 something to do with it at a later date 173 00:08:57,610 --> 00:08:55,460 well that yeah that would be part of my 174 00:08:59,740 --> 00:08:57,620 thoughts on what on the scheme of things 175 00:09:01,570 --> 00:08:59,750 because that will lead us to Scott 176 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:01,580 Walters theory that it was done much 177 00:09:07,570 --> 00:09:05,930 earlier during the 14th century but I 178 00:09:09,430 --> 00:09:07,580 really think that it's possible that 179 00:09:11,950 --> 00:09:09,440 both of these gentlemen are correct in 180 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:11,960 their assumptions in a way because these 181 00:09:17,740 --> 00:09:14,090 kind of axes are points on the earth 182 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:17,750 where taken over you know from one group 183 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:20,570 to the other there is a kind of 184 00:09:27,580 --> 00:09:24,710 opposition in philosophy between 185 00:09:29,380 --> 00:09:27,590 Elizabeth and Mary the the first that 186 00:09:31,090 --> 00:09:29,390 was the queen before her and that she 187 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:31,100 was Catholic and Elizabeth was 188 00:09:37,810 --> 00:09:34,130 Protestant so John Dee was kind of 189 00:09:40,450 --> 00:09:37,820 active in both of the monarchies and a 190 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:40,460 court politics of both of those queens 191 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:43,910 and in fact was in prison by Mary the 192 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:49,930 first for casting horoscopes so so he 193 00:09:55,060 --> 00:09:52,760 they might have came there to take over 194 00:09:58,900 --> 00:09:55,070 an axis or a significant point that had 195 00:10:01,390 --> 00:09:58,910 been claimed earlier by a Scotsman or 196 00:10:02,530 --> 00:10:01,400 theories that are possibly Knights of 197 00:10:04,510 --> 00:10:02,540 Malta as well 198 00:10:07,090 --> 00:10:04,520 uncovered some evidence that says that 199 00:10:09,550 --> 00:10:07,100 could be true but this would more 200 00:10:11,650 --> 00:10:09,560 closely fit Scott Walters theory during 201 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:11,660 the 14th century that people came there 202 00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:14,090 and align the tower to point the way to 203 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:16,460 the Kensington Runestone which 204 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:18,640 incidentally the the octagonal 205 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:21,290 orientation of the tower also points to 206 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:26,090 the Runestone in Kensington well let's 207 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:29,330 get Gary into the conversation Gary can 208 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:31,040 you tell us it just a little bit about 209 00:10:35,950 --> 00:10:33,650 yours your research and your expertise 210 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:35,960 and how it came to be that you know you 211 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:38,690 were examining this particular site I 212 00:10:45,460 --> 00:10:42,650 know Court has told me a lot about some 213 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:45,470 of the work that you do and you were 214 00:10:51,010 --> 00:10:47,210 sort of helping him with some of his 215 00:10:52,510 --> 00:10:51,020 research in terms of his site locations 216 00:10:56,350 --> 00:10:52,520 that he's looking at around the globe 217 00:10:59,290 --> 00:10:56,360 and the correlation between those sites 218 00:11:01,330 --> 00:10:59,300 and now he's looking at the families 219 00:11:05,020 --> 00:11:01,340 that were involved in the construction 220 00:11:07,570 --> 00:11:05,030 of most of these places so can you tell 221 00:11:11,370 --> 00:11:07,580 me what it is that your area of 222 00:11:14,650 --> 00:11:11,380 expertise in this whole research area 223 00:11:17,770 --> 00:11:14,660 mine involves the tracking down from 224 00:11:19,450 --> 00:11:17,780 five or six years ago the colonial 225 00:11:23,830 --> 00:11:19,460 historical researcher since I was a kid 226 00:11:25,930 --> 00:11:23,840 and genealogy artifacts relics I've 227 00:11:30,730 --> 00:11:25,940 always just fascination for the study 228 00:11:32,620 --> 00:11:30,740 and some years ago I was became a member 229 00:11:34,450 --> 00:11:32,630 of a board of the National Museum of the 230 00:11:37,260 --> 00:11:34,460 American Revolution where I got into the 231 00:11:40,330 --> 00:11:37,270 study of the great seals because I 232 00:11:42,460 --> 00:11:40,340 identified the oldest surviving grace 233 00:11:44,020 --> 00:11:42,470 hill in the United States and the only 234 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:44,030 one from the American Revolution that I 235 00:11:50,140 --> 00:11:48,170 know exists and this art and study of 236 00:11:54,070 --> 00:11:50,150 this history and taking me into the 237 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:54,080 study of Robert Scott which is a secret 238 00:11:57,930 --> 00:11:55,760 very secret man that was with the US 239 00:12:00,970 --> 00:11:57,940 Mint and he was an artist beyond 240 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:00,980 recognition when it comes to many things 241 00:12:06,430 --> 00:12:03,710 people couldn't identify his identity to 242 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:06,440 his family was this study with genealogy 243 00:12:10,090 --> 00:12:08,210 where I've had great luck with genealogy 244 00:12:12,130 --> 00:12:10,100 over the years and studying other 245 00:12:14,830 --> 00:12:12,140 important families with historical flags 246 00:12:15,550 --> 00:12:14,840 I was able to take this history and find 247 00:12:17,830 --> 00:12:15,560 out 248 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:17,840 time who this guy's father was and 249 00:12:24,130 --> 00:12:21,350 family and these are the big players of 250 00:12:30,670 --> 00:12:24,140 the royal family lines that go all the 251 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:30,680 way back to the Stuart's to the well you 252 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:32,810 name it there's it's hard to say existed 253 00:12:37,570 --> 00:12:35,360 to the Sinclairs to the Stuart's to the 254 00:12:39,250 --> 00:12:37,580 Hansen's to ya directly to the 255 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:39,260 Sinclair's when you see that when you 256 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:41,290 see the Douglas family name they are 257 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:44,330 Sinclair's so one of the big fines last 258 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:47,330 year winter was that the surname Scott 259 00:12:53,350 --> 00:12:50,510 was was changed or it was originally 260 00:12:56,050 --> 00:12:53,360 Fleming so a Lord Fleming a Norman 261 00:12:58,269 --> 00:12:56,060 Crusader married a very famous royal 262 00:12:59,800 --> 00:12:58,279 woman named Dunbar to the break to the 263 00:13:02,230 --> 00:12:59,810 kings of all the king lines in English 264 00:13:04,329 --> 00:13:02,240 and the ancient Delrita lines they get 265 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:04,339 married they have a son then no one knew 266 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:06,050 about it really and he changes his name 267 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:09,290 to Scott Scott becomes Douglas Douglas 268 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:12,560 is married to Sinclair ok the Google 269 00:13:19,570 --> 00:13:16,970 rosslyn and then you have their Lords 270 00:13:21,430 --> 00:13:19,580 with their properties the Carver or the 271 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:21,440 cupbearers and another one was another 272 00:13:27,790 --> 00:13:23,600 Lord Fleming so you have this direct 273 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:27,800 line of powerful royal families and with 274 00:13:32,140 --> 00:13:29,930 different names and and so I was able to 275 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:32,150 rewrite and identify for the first time 276 00:13:38,020 --> 00:13:35,210 the identity surname of Scott for the 277 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:38,030 origins of Scotland which is a very big 278 00:13:44,170 --> 00:13:41,690 deal that right now they the academics 279 00:13:47,140 --> 00:13:44,180 at the the University of st. Andrews 280 00:13:48,850 --> 00:13:47,150 still will not post this or allow this 281 00:13:52,420 --> 00:13:48,860 to be said not even the country or the 282 00:13:53,890 --> 00:13:52,430 media it's hysterical because most of 283 00:13:57,190 --> 00:13:53,900 the people in Scotland who believed 284 00:14:00,579 --> 00:13:57,200 their name is Scott as being at in 285 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:00,589 Scottish bernal on me it's a truth 286 00:14:04,570 --> 00:14:02,240 that's really what i was looking with 287 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:04,580 interest at the election last week in 288 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:07,010 scotland whether or not they would 289 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:11,170 secede from the United Kingdom and I 290 00:14:17,650 --> 00:14:13,190 thought wow wouldn't it be interesting 291 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:17,660 if we you know had another monarchy you 292 00:14:23,380 --> 00:14:20,120 know the King of Scotland returns or the 293 00:14:26,650 --> 00:14:23,390 Queen of Scotland that would be really 294 00:14:28,329 --> 00:14:26,660 interesting but it was defeated so I 295 00:14:29,140 --> 00:14:28,339 guess we won't find that out just yet 296 00:14:32,470 --> 00:14:29,150 anyway 297 00:14:35,410 --> 00:14:32,480 but back now how did how does all this 298 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:35,420 you know these families these crests 299 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:38,570 these symbols that you've come to be so 300 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:40,790 familiar with and be able to recognize 301 00:14:45,940 --> 00:14:43,040 and pick out these patterns in these 302 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:45,950 symbols how does this all tie in to what 303 00:14:52,030 --> 00:14:48,440 you've done in the last few days over at 304 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:52,040 the Newport tower there's a great deal 305 00:15:00,100 --> 00:14:55,490 um a lot of the art that's done in 306 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:00,110 paintings coins engraving it's not much 307 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:02,870 at all different than what you see in a 308 00:15:09,130 --> 00:15:05,210 lot of different stone are or sculpture 309 00:15:12,580 --> 00:15:09,140 and here it's it's the difference of 310 00:15:14,770 --> 00:15:12,590 being able to identify graffiti let's 311 00:15:16,930 --> 00:15:14,780 say from whenever this place was built 312 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:16,940 all the way into the 1800s and 313 00:15:22,060 --> 00:15:19,130 separating that and finding symbols and 314 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:22,070 and information on it that you're trying 315 00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:23,510 to break the difference out of what 316 00:15:28,450 --> 00:15:26,000 could truly be original to to the tower 317 00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:28,460 and it's a very hard thing to do and a 318 00:15:33,370 --> 00:15:31,430 lot of wonderful professionals have been 319 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:33,380 trying to figure this out for a while 320 00:15:41,650 --> 00:15:39,290 and for me having studied so many pieces 321 00:15:44,350 --> 00:15:41,660 of art class and relics and silver and 322 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:44,360 engraving and the list goes on that it 323 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:47,150 is kind of easier for me to find stuff 324 00:15:51,610 --> 00:15:48,770 that's beat up and worn out especially 325 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:51,620 on rocks it's easier it's it's not as 326 00:15:57,700 --> 00:15:54,410 complicated and just Mabel to find 327 00:15:59,050 --> 00:15:57,710 things that see see exactly what the 328 00:16:01,980 --> 00:15:59,060 example of what you're seeing is what i 329 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:01,990 found that has been overlooking people 330 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:05,810 so it on that particular day you weren't 331 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:08,150 really looking for anything right don't 332 00:16:12,460 --> 00:16:09,920 you out there to give instruction to 333 00:16:14,110 --> 00:16:12,470 somebody yes this is the the most 334 00:16:16,450 --> 00:16:14,120 exciting thing is that there's a 335 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:16,460 wonderful group called naira the New 336 00:16:21,220 --> 00:16:19,250 England antiquities Association and this 337 00:16:23,170 --> 00:16:21,230 group of people go and study all the 338 00:16:25,090 --> 00:16:23,180 different sites of stone and ancient 339 00:16:28,390 --> 00:16:25,100 sites set to be from the Celts or the 340 00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:28,400 byzantines or ancient people and trying 341 00:16:35,340 --> 00:16:32,480 to identify and I wound up contacting a 342 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:35,350 wonderful person that I really do like 343 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:38,720 mr. us Steve de marzo who is the 344 00:16:42,050 --> 00:16:40,130 representative for the Rhode Island 345 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:42,060 Massachusetts area 346 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:44,220 and the whole idea was that I had fed 347 00:16:49,130 --> 00:16:46,290 him a great deal of my private and 348 00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:49,140 personal documents that are very 349 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:51,600 valuable if you want to go out find 350 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:53,010 treasure a relic see and learn this 351 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:54,570 stuff you could go out and probably one 352 00:16:58,880 --> 00:16:56,850 of learning how to find important relics 353 00:17:01,790 --> 00:16:58,890 that could then become very valuable 354 00:17:04,130 --> 00:17:01,800 down the road but um it was just amazing 355 00:17:05,660 --> 00:17:04,140 because we head off well and he spent a 356 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:05,670 lot of time wanting to learn about 357 00:17:10,310 --> 00:17:08,130 different angles seeing this art and 358 00:17:12,020 --> 00:17:10,320 applying this art to some of these 359 00:17:15,050 --> 00:17:12,030 ancient sites and places that maybe 360 00:17:17,030 --> 00:17:15,060 would be able to pick out symbols and 361 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:17,040 things that might be helpful not just 362 00:17:20,780 --> 00:17:18,810 for the tower here but really for all 363 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:20,790 the other sites and so Newport was 364 00:17:24,980 --> 00:17:23,370 really kind of like a meeting ground to 365 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:24,990 get together to get to know each other 366 00:17:32,090 --> 00:17:27,530 spend some time looking at the site and 367 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:32,100 it was just we had not expected the 368 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:34,740 first find of that day to happen within 369 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:37,050 minutes before we left and that's really 370 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:39,510 because Steve's six foot four he's a 371 00:17:45,380 --> 00:17:42,890 tall man and he was looking up and I I 372 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:45,390 overlooked the symbol where I saw I took 373 00:17:49,730 --> 00:17:47,850 a picture of it look like a three an e 374 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:49,740 one of these these ancient ease you see 375 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:51,840 on these old relics going way back to 376 00:17:58,550 --> 00:17:54,930 and he caught it caught it with his I 377 00:18:00,440 --> 00:17:58,560 went up and got close I saw one and we 378 00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:00,450 saw then we started seeing a five we saw 379 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:02,700 an eight we couldn't see it too but we 380 00:18:07,130 --> 00:18:04,530 saw the numbers we're looking at we're 381 00:18:09,410 --> 00:18:07,140 thinking it's a two numbers and then you 382 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:09,420 know we took these pictures saw him 383 00:18:13,550 --> 00:18:11,280 later that night and then we realized 384 00:18:17,090 --> 00:18:13,560 that it's apparently it as a potential 385 00:18:21,170 --> 00:18:17,100 at maybe really being a date a set of 386 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:21,180 numbers a date an Arabic because it's so 387 00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:25,200 faded and worn out like like he can't 388 00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:30,230 imagine and so it was very exciting and 389 00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:33,390 we wound up going plan made plans to go 390 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:34,860 back again but there were some other 391 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:37,050 finds found on another rock that I had 392 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:39,330 taken pictures of that people were 393 00:18:47,450 --> 00:18:43,290 already aware of also and it's kind of 394 00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:47,460 an odd rock it had look like there's a 395 00:18:51,049 --> 00:18:48,870 name uh 396 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:51,059 uh let's say a person that does not in 397 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:53,610 grave right just it's not not good and 398 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:56,130 clean and it looks more mustard to me 399 00:19:01,549 --> 00:18:58,290 and then to the right of it there's a 400 00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:01,559 set of a writing that looks like grr 401 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:04,590 token type art and everyone knows token 402 00:19:10,910 --> 00:19:08,850 is uh he's an actual ruinous he was an 403 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:10,920 educator in that field so that's where 404 00:19:16,430 --> 00:19:13,170 I've been I could say it kind of looks 405 00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:16,440 in this in a fashion like his art and I 406 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:18,390 tried to explain to some of these guys 407 00:19:22,970 --> 00:19:20,370 that steve saw this to that his 408 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:22,980 associates that from from the left side 409 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:25,650 you have these big bold writing that's 410 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:27,450 just not from a real professional and 411 00:19:32,030 --> 00:19:29,250 then on the right side you have this 412 00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:32,040 other are in that somewhere as they flow 413 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:33,929 into the middle the people on the left 414 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:36,090 side overlap certain symbols and some 415 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:38,730 numbers and you know I thought maybe at 416 00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:42,059 first they were dates I don't think so 417 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:44,070 they could be but there were numbers or 418 00:19:48,740 --> 00:19:46,290 symbols there and the one thing i did 419 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:48,750 find out tonight and the last couple of 420 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:50,370 days actually we're really looking at it 421 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:52,170 is that it looks like three sets of 422 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:54,420 numbers of 1800 but the third set is 423 00:19:59,450 --> 00:19:57,090 actually it looks like a one but there's 424 00:20:02,360 --> 00:19:59,460 really an X and not an eight and these 425 00:20:04,610 --> 00:20:02,370 other two numbers are not numbers on the 426 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:04,620 bottom they're symbols and if you look 427 00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:06,090 at in close you'll be able to tell and 428 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:07,950 especially with the ex there's just no 429 00:20:11,470 --> 00:20:09,510 way it's it's it's an accent it almost 430 00:20:16,580 --> 00:20:11,480 has a hook on the top of the left side 431 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:16,590 so that exists and so from there we made 432 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:19,110 up we made plans to go back there for 433 00:20:27,770 --> 00:20:22,410 for another trip following week which we 434 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:27,780 did and so did nearer go back out there 435 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:32,010 with you steve was there and a few of 436 00:20:39,710 --> 00:20:35,130 his associates that I had never met 437 00:20:41,060 --> 00:20:39,720 before and they were busy uh doing a lot 438 00:20:43,549 --> 00:20:41,070 of different things and Steve and I were 439 00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:43,559 going around but believe her not 440 00:20:49,850 --> 00:20:45,840 actually early on before they even got 441 00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:49,860 there I got time to look at at the stone 442 00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:51,929 and from outside this iron gated fence 443 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:54,630 and I started to really pay attention 444 00:20:59,390 --> 00:20:58,050 and look and I noticed a stone that it 445 00:21:00,620 --> 00:20:59,400 appeared to have what looked like 446 00:21:03,650 --> 00:21:00,630 numbers 447 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:03,660 another set of dates and you know I just 448 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:06,240 didn't want to go and say anything when 449 00:21:11,710 --> 00:21:08,190 everybody showed up and I really kept it 450 00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:11,720 to myself because of the to worry about 451 00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:13,740 you know I don't know who I'm meeting 452 00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:15,660 you know I don't know any of these 453 00:21:22,130 --> 00:21:18,920 people are and I just wasn't sure of of 454 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:22,140 the situation because well it's kind of 455 00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:23,760 tricky to when you're coming out with 456 00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:26,640 something you know that really hasn't 457 00:21:31,580 --> 00:21:29,220 been found before it's like it's it's 458 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:31,590 kind of tricky there are some people you 459 00:21:38,510 --> 00:21:35,850 know have their own agendas and in their 460 00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:38,520 own theories and sometimes you know 461 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:40,950 people don't want to hear what counters 462 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:42,510 what they're already thinking or what 463 00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:43,980 you know they've been putting in a lot 464 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:46,440 of hard work and you know maybe this is 465 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:48,810 going to kind of blow their theory out 466 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:50,970 of the water or maybe it doesn't have to 467 00:21:57,530 --> 00:21:55,010 but I think it's sort of people's first 468 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:57,540 impulse somehow are some people anyway 469 00:22:02,600 --> 00:21:59,490 to sort of poo-poo anything new that 470 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:02,610 that comes out or that's found but you 471 00:22:08,150 --> 00:22:04,890 know I like what you said to me earlier 472 00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:08,160 about hey let's invite everyone to have 473 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:11,670 a look at you know what you found you 474 00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:14,130 know people who are just interested 475 00:22:18,350 --> 00:22:16,680 researchers experts everybody should 476 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,360 should have a look and I know that you 477 00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:21,200 know you have some experts right now 478 00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:23,640 that have found this very interesting 479 00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:26,670 and are looking at it and so we'll have 480 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:28,980 to see later on you know what the the 481 00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:32,130 final analysis of this analysis but I 482 00:22:37,460 --> 00:22:34,500 thought it was important to point it out 483 00:22:39,950 --> 00:22:37,470 right away in also to you know give 484 00:22:42,620 --> 00:22:39,960 credit where credit's due and you know 485 00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:42,630 let people know that Gary giannotti was 486 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:45,120 the first person to come across this and 487 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:48,330 then you know we'll probably be learning 488 00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:50,670 more overtime about what you found would 489 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:53,190 you say that was a fair statement uh the 490 00:23:00,320 --> 00:22:55,770 second set of dates and all the other 491 00:23:02,030 --> 00:23:00,330 information after but the kind of I had 492 00:23:04,610 --> 00:23:02,040 stayed there were taking snapshots 493 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:04,620 together in different areas to yeah but 494 00:23:10,010 --> 00:23:06,960 like the first set of numbers that that 495 00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:10,020 Steve's eagle eyes I mean he's dynamite 496 00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:11,910 this guy's eyes and 497 00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:14,430 that's amazing hey the first the first 498 00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,470 catch because I would have let it go and 499 00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:17,760 going home and then looked at the care 500 00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:19,950 uh the photos but if that photo wasn't 501 00:23:24,980 --> 00:23:23,190 good at what I've taken I if it if it 502 00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:24,990 really is there I would have probably 503 00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:26,340 had a chance that I could have 504 00:23:30,350 --> 00:23:28,590 overlooked it even from a photo because 505 00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:30,360 you really need to take a lot of photos 506 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:32,550 if she can so you know I will just snap 507 00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:34,080 the couple and if the odds are it buddy 508 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:37,520 catch it we wouldn't be here right now 509 00:23:43,970 --> 00:23:40,710 now am I right or wrong that there has 510 00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:43,980 been sort of some Theory proven in some 511 00:23:51,290 --> 00:23:47,190 way or another about the alignment of 512 00:23:52,910 --> 00:23:51,300 the building as far as you know isn't 513 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:52,920 just one of the structures court where 514 00:23:58,610 --> 00:23:56,010 you know oh it souls this time the you 515 00:24:01,630 --> 00:23:58,620 know it comes the light comes in or am I 516 00:24:05,870 --> 00:24:01,640 completely confusing this with the 517 00:24:08,930 --> 00:24:05,880 Lagrange and other places no no a Scott 518 00:24:12,050 --> 00:24:08,940 Wolter did identify yes that's what I 519 00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:12,060 thought solstice at nine thirty AM that 520 00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:13,740 there's an alignment through one of the 521 00:24:19,790 --> 00:24:17,310 archways that as I was saying also 522 00:24:23,060 --> 00:24:19,800 mimics the orientation of the building 523 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:23,070 itself and also i might note that the 524 00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:25,410 more modern octagonal walk wave they've 525 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:27,630 put around the tower matches this as 526 00:24:32,030 --> 00:24:30,330 well of course what sec once that 527 00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:32,040 there's that remember I told you about 528 00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:33,390 the sticks that are up in the window 529 00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:35,340 they put him in there that that was the 530 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:37,080 narrower guys that had mentioned that 531 00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:38,730 it's another type of way to put these 532 00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:41,220 sticks in it cast light and has to do 533 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:43,800 with celestial to sure that could be 534 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:46,290 like a sundial as well but I don't 535 00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:47,910 remember you telling me that that I 536 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:49,710 thought that we've covered so much 537 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:51,330 information our heads been spinning for 538 00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:55,410 women oh I know it and and it's also 539 00:25:00,410 --> 00:24:57,840 interest now most of these oh go ahead 540 00:25:02,150 --> 00:25:00,420 well I would point out accordant that in 541 00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:02,160 colonial era there's also another 542 00:25:08,060 --> 00:25:04,980 structure very similar-- that was 543 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:08,070 documented being built in 1714 in 544 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:10,890 Colonial Williamsburg in Virginia that 545 00:25:15,580 --> 00:25:13,050 was also originally built as a church 546 00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:15,590 and today known as the powder magazine 547 00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:19,590 and it has octagonal of an array to with 548 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:22,500 alignments associated and associated 549 00:25:26,510 --> 00:25:24,210 places aligned 550 00:25:28,670 --> 00:25:26,520 long the Octagon including the 551 00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:28,680 International Peace Garden which with 552 00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:31,140 Gary's help we've linked together all 553 00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:35,190 the same Norman and hops Berg families 554 00:25:40,340 --> 00:25:37,020 building almost all of the structures 555 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,350 that I've been talking about including 556 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,440 several in Europe and including the 557 00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:45,600 King's not at stirling castle and chuck 558 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:48,120 burrows halls Tower of the winds as we 559 00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:50,970 talked about before but that's the 560 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:54,360 tradition we're seeing at work here so 561 00:25:59,560 --> 00:25:57,090 it's really easy to fit the whole scheme 562 00:26:02,840 --> 00:25:59,570 of what's going on at the Newport tower 563 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:02,850 compared to other places that I have 564 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:04,770 studied in and all these places are 565 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:08,130 related to astrology and stellar 566 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:11,580 alignments and lunar alignments as some 567 00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:17,010 people point out and that it I feel sure 568 00:26:21,550 --> 00:26:19,350 that they've arrayed significant places 569 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:21,560 for instance even the powder magazine 570 00:26:29,090 --> 00:26:24,570 points very near the Newport tower and 571 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:29,100 the Narragansett rune stone so it points 572 00:26:33,380 --> 00:26:31,170 right through to Port Harbor there and 573 00:26:35,540 --> 00:26:33,390 then both the Newport tower and the 574 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:35,550 powder magazine in Colonial Williamsburg 575 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:38,210 point to the Magdalene islands in the 576 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:41,970 Gulf of st. Lawrence which is a part of 577 00:26:48,290 --> 00:26:45,770 French Arcadia and there's a lot of 578 00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:48,300 interesting place names in the Magdalene 579 00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:51,360 islands that suggest something is afoot 580 00:26:57,770 --> 00:26:55,440 there as well yeah the Magdalene islands 581 00:27:01,370 --> 00:26:57,780 that sounds interesting right there well 582 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:01,380 I tell you is so much in it it seems to 583 00:27:07,850 --> 00:27:04,770 me like so much of this information is 584 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:07,860 sort of coming out it's almost like the 585 00:27:14,150 --> 00:27:11,250 dam has broken and you know every other 586 00:27:15,980 --> 00:27:14,160 week somebody's finding something that 587 00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:15,990 is another piece of the puzzle I know 588 00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:17,640 you've been working on some stuff court 589 00:27:22,910 --> 00:27:20,070 and will probably do that in a future 590 00:27:24,770 --> 00:27:22,920 show but it seems like some of the 591 00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,780 pieces are finally coming together in 592 00:27:30,050 --> 00:27:26,640 some of these mysteries particularly 593 00:27:33,130 --> 00:27:30,060 where they pertain to you know what's 594 00:27:36,050 --> 00:27:33,140 these families the disposer knee they 595 00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:36,060 bloodline families if you will the royal 596 00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:37,020 families 597 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:39,720 and why do you think it's all coming out 598 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:42,720 now my process it just seemed that way 599 00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:44,010 and I'll tell you something that's 600 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:45,750 really special or really this is what I 601 00:27:48,980 --> 00:27:47,730 know as a researcher and I try to con 602 00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:48,990 I'm in over the years I've been 603 00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:52,200 attacking lots of people and and what I 604 00:27:56,090 --> 00:27:54,360 can honestly say is all right we're 605 00:27:58,130 --> 00:27:56,100 talking about Sinclair's and royal 606 00:28:00,080 --> 00:27:58,140 families and descendants right well 607 00:28:02,210 --> 00:28:00,090 there are a lot of descendants that are 608 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:02,220 offshoot to send it to people that care 609 00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:04,350 that are doing such great work today 610 00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:06,750 that these are the people that I'm 611 00:28:10,370 --> 00:28:08,820 finding and linking to with the 612 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:10,380 information that I'm trying to find and 613 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:11,700 when you find those those ones that 614 00:28:15,410 --> 00:28:13,710 share this is the big difference because 615 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:15,420 there's all the original families who 616 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:17,730 are so off shot from these families 617 00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:19,710 they're all coming together there are so 618 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:22,350 many great researchers academics are 619 00:28:26,030 --> 00:28:24,330 doing such a great job like beyond 620 00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:26,040 anything with the old history research 621 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:28,620 today that is just everything is 622 00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,500 starting to open up and the other thing 623 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:33,360 too is all of this information that 624 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,370 we're learning with all of this are and 625 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,200 everything associated in towers and 626 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:39,840 whatever it's it's so connecting so 627 00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:43,560 related is that everything when it comes 628 00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:46,080 to art and the symbols it's all there in 629 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:47,940 front of us and a lot of us just don't 630 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:50,610 see it it's it's there I'm telling you 631 00:28:55,070 --> 00:28:52,200 and that's the point people are 632 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:55,080 overlooking so much that already exists 633 00:28:59,060 --> 00:28:57,090 it was never a lot of it's not meant to 634 00:29:02,600 --> 00:28:59,070 be hidden it's just that it's been lost 635 00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:02,610 or been just kept-kept as is forgotten 636 00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:04,920 yeah but I do agree with you I think 637 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,670 there are you know people that are not 638 00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:10,320 only connecting the dots for themselves 639 00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:12,270 but people that are getting connected up 640 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:16,230 you know you have a certain area that 641 00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:19,050 you're going down Scott I mean court has 642 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:21,510 another sort of em you know my friend 643 00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:23,370 Gloria Amendola who lives right down the 644 00:29:27,470 --> 00:29:25,470 road for their in Connecticut she's 645 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:27,480 going down a different track so I think 646 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:30,510 that what's going on is that you know 647 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:33,450 people a lot of people are quietly just 648 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:35,730 beavering away and doing their research 649 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:37,530 in it I think we're getting somewhere 650 00:29:43,670 --> 00:29:40,260 because people are connecting up just 651 00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:43,680 like court was sort of on his track with 652 00:29:47,310 --> 00:29:45,720 his you know geometry his maps in his 653 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:47,320 alignments and 654 00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,110 and what you were doing was brought into 655 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:52,720 that and that started making sense with 656 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:55,810 what he was finding with the families 657 00:30:00,780 --> 00:29:57,730 that were involved in that particular 658 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:00,790 sites court night together when we 659 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,650 involve everything that we know all of 660 00:30:06,990 --> 00:30:04,960 his work and all of my work is now just 661 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:07,000 skyrocketed we can't even keep up with 662 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:08,770 what we're finding out we can't even 663 00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:11,050 keep up with documenting there's so much 664 00:30:14,850 --> 00:30:13,480 now that these doors are open and he and 665 00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:14,860 I are just leap frogging lop each 666 00:30:21,390 --> 00:30:16,720 other's back and that's one of the 667 00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:21,400 reasons why I made it an important point 668 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:23,950 to be able to open up to people at marys 669 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:26,110 such as Steve this wonderful gentleman 670 00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:28,570 and some of us associate is because that 671 00:30:34,350 --> 00:30:31,020 the same thing is going to happen and if 672 00:30:36,270 --> 00:30:34,360 this example of what I can do here can 673 00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:36,280 be applied to the other sites throughout 674 00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:37,960 New England then you know it's going to 675 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:39,820 open up more doors and it's just not me 676 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:40,990 it's just people coming together that 677 00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:44,950 that click and wow this is also this is 678 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:46,630 also well but we got to take a quick 679 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:49,210 break and we'll be right back with Gary 680 00:30:53,850 --> 00:30:51,310 giannotti in court lindell hang on 681 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:53,860 everybody we're back thank you for 682 00:30:57,780 --> 00:30:55,690 sticking with us we're here on night 683 00:31:01,230 --> 00:30:57,790 vision radio I'm your host Renee Barnett 684 00:31:05,010 --> 00:31:01,240 and i am talking with Kourt Linda and 685 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:05,020 Gary giannotti gary has just in the past 686 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:07,930 days made some discoveries of some 687 00:31:17,340 --> 00:31:12,250 etchings and engravings on the stones at 688 00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:17,350 the Newport tower so Gary we see you 689 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:19,270 know it looks to me like there are some 690 00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:22,390 dates on some of those stones dare we 691 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:26,710 talk about that sure sure the big one 692 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:28,450 that were the big one that was found 693 00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:33,130 first identified by Steve two marzo you 694 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:36,220 can look at it you can see it shaded I 695 00:31:39,570 --> 00:31:38,140 can see it change some people can't but 696 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:39,580 I just have a lot of experience of 697 00:31:45,270 --> 00:31:42,310 looking at beat-up relics and I mean 698 00:31:47,130 --> 00:31:45,280 experience with it and you'll see a dark 699 00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:47,140 shade right there that's around the 700 00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:49,390 numbers real dark dark and there's a 701 00:31:54,570 --> 00:31:50,950 theory because the whole tower was 702 00:31:55,980 --> 00:31:54,580 covered in stucco that's what are not 703 00:31:58,110 --> 00:31:55,990 there it's what's been told stucco and 704 00:31:58,860 --> 00:31:58,120 there's a section of a post that has a 705 00:32:01,470 --> 00:31:58,870 bit of it 706 00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:01,480 left there one of the theories now 707 00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:03,820 having talked to from your 708 00:32:09,290 --> 00:32:06,400 recommendation to the to the to the 709 00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:09,300 scientist remember we were talking about 710 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:11,830 we had talked and some of these 711 00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:15,610 gentlemen at narrow said that yet that 712 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:19,600 there's no way that well my theory was 713 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:21,250 is that the stucco came up to the outer 714 00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:24,010 edges of this rock and then where the 715 00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:25,720 numbers are the numbers were meant to be 716 00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:27,670 exposed that's why we're seeing this 717 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:30,100 deterioration of the center area where 718 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:32,050 the numbers are whether it exposed and 719 00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:34,570 then the outside edges were covered so 720 00:32:39,419 --> 00:32:36,309 that's why it looks newer on the outside 721 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:39,429 edges and having talked to the gentleman 722 00:32:45,419 --> 00:32:42,720 that you had mentioned this professor 723 00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:45,429 geologist was well known all over the 724 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:49,809 world he said that regardless I guess 725 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:51,370 with the not even with the dates but 726 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:53,410 just with that weathering and the where 727 00:32:59,370 --> 00:32:54,970 the stucco was you can actually probably 728 00:33:02,250 --> 00:32:59,380 date the stone from anywhere from four 729 00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:02,260 trying to get a 352 a 700 year period it 730 00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:05,220 can probably be done so that's a really 731 00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:09,190 exciting on this one here and I was told 732 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:10,390 by some other people that it's 733 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:12,010 impossible and how they didn't see the 734 00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:14,170 dates and so it's okay I mean you're 735 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:15,070 going to get people that are very 736 00:33:22,530 --> 00:33:18,610 cautious with their work or or anything 737 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:22,540 in that sense but we had a couple people 738 00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:24,190 on ladders I even had an old lady on the 739 00:33:29,790 --> 00:33:26,200 ladder and tourists that were passing by 740 00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:29,800 and they saw it also but there was a 741 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:31,840 person her husband that couldn't see it 742 00:33:36,150 --> 00:33:33,610 so well and then there was a few other 743 00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:36,160 gentleman that did and the only people 744 00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,470 that really didn't see it was one of the 745 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:40,960 women in the group from naira and but 746 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:43,210 he's just being his cautious as he can 747 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:46,210 and you know professional because you 748 00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:47,260 know you just don't want to go cryin 749 00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:48,700 wolf you need to have as much evidence 750 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:51,070 that you can't you have to work right 751 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:54,250 and i found that time and again in 752 00:34:00,090 --> 00:33:56,610 talking with people who've made these 753 00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:00,100 discoveries in similar things you know 754 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:02,920 happening where you know it took a long 755 00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:06,850 time for the establishment you know the 756 00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:09,580 archeological establishment to finally 757 00:34:12,659 --> 00:34:11,950 come around it's like no one wants to 758 00:34:16,589 --> 00:34:12,669 stick their neck 759 00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:16,599 and you know and in a way it's good we 760 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:20,399 need we need caution certainly you know 761 00:34:27,149 --> 00:34:25,210 you know I'm not saying I I have no 762 00:34:29,730 --> 00:34:27,159 expertise in this area that I can make 763 00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:29,740 an opinion about it but what I can see 764 00:34:34,649 --> 00:34:31,899 is that it's very exciting and it's 765 00:34:37,049 --> 00:34:34,659 certainly something new that we really 766 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,059 need to look into and I'm so glad that 767 00:34:42,990 --> 00:34:39,520 there are some experts that are taking 768 00:34:44,789 --> 00:34:43,000 note enough just to really have a look 769 00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:44,799 without you know just dismissing it out 770 00:34:50,460 --> 00:34:47,980 of hand right at the beginning so I I'm 771 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:50,470 really excited to hear what the upshot 772 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:53,290 of that is and will update everyone here 773 00:34:59,700 --> 00:34:55,510 on night vision when we get some of 774 00:35:01,980 --> 00:34:59,710 those results back but now was were 775 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:01,990 these etchings are these engravings 776 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:05,170 primarily on the outside of the tower or 777 00:35:12,270 --> 00:35:09,609 on the inside I other kind of around the 778 00:35:13,890 --> 00:35:12,280 post and inside now I believe there was 779 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:13,900 a couple a key for me inside but mostly 780 00:35:20,730 --> 00:35:18,970 outside and again I don't know i mean if 781 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:20,740 these things were covered with stucco I 782 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:23,650 mean it's just that were they done after 783 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:25,569 the fact it's hard to say were some of 784 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:28,089 these well my theory was with this 785 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:29,770 showing that the one that was exposed 786 00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:32,650 would that be exposed to let people know 787 00:35:38,809 --> 00:35:35,109 that that's an actual claim date that's 788 00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:38,819 a theory just don't know yet and then 789 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:40,990 this other rock I want to tell you 790 00:35:46,109 --> 00:35:43,210 something neat the the other rock that I 791 00:35:48,359 --> 00:35:46,119 told you that had the it looked like the 792 00:35:50,730 --> 00:35:48,369 type of writing that was junior tokens 793 00:35:54,750 --> 00:35:50,740 right well I sent some pictures to 794 00:35:59,730 --> 00:35:54,760 Scotland to a educator in the academics 795 00:36:03,660 --> 00:35:59,740 a teacher a professor who said that a 796 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:03,670 couple of these letters on that rock the 797 00:36:09,329 --> 00:36:05,290 small one that were in toes r everyone 798 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:09,339 collided maybe some defacing right there 799 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:11,290 were a couple of ruins that person found 800 00:36:17,790 --> 00:36:14,410 that are said to be from the 1100s and 801 00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:17,800 that they are anglo-saxon 802 00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:20,380 now think about that and everyone's got 803 00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:21,550 their mind set and everything being 804 00:36:27,870 --> 00:36:25,660 Templars and Vikings but anglo-saxon and 805 00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:27,880 you have to remember that all of those 806 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:29,830 families were also married to the 807 00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:31,450 vikings and they're also married to the 808 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:33,430 Normans so you had an intermix right 809 00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:36,130 there so who knows what type of writings 810 00:36:41,610 --> 00:36:39,580 they were practicing so there's going to 811 00:36:43,140 --> 00:36:41,620 be some theory with that but who knows 812 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:43,150 it could change maybe this might be 813 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:44,530 something that was done in the eighteen 814 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:45,910 hundreds because they did decorative 815 00:36:51,090 --> 00:36:48,510 forms of writing that carried on in 816 00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,100 ruins found even you know it isn't 817 00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:53,200 ruined I mean it it looked to me like 818 00:36:58,340 --> 00:36:54,640 there were a couple letters when I 819 00:37:02,160 --> 00:36:58,350 translated I tried to and it mentioned 820 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:02,170 God need of God for man and if that's 821 00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:05,530 you know right i mean i'm not a rune 822 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:08,620 expert but it could be i mean a lot now 823 00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:11,530 this gentleman that you sent some 824 00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:14,080 pictures to he is a rune expert right a 825 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:17,590 teacher of it in the university's right 826 00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:23,490 so he's going to he's giving you his 827 00:37:29,370 --> 00:37:26,430 opinion that some of the writing is 828 00:37:31,350 --> 00:37:29,380 anglo-saxon to to that bleep believes 829 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:31,360 that to work yeah 22 ruins but 830 00:37:36,030 --> 00:37:33,010 everything else is too hard for that 831 00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:36,040 person to say right and we might say to 832 00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:38,830 that that some of these runic forms of 833 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:41,950 writing were used as ciphers later in 834 00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:45,010 history as well yeah so that's a 835 00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:48,790 possibility to even if it was 11th 836 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:51,550 century it's not wouldn't be unheard of 837 00:37:56,450 --> 00:37:53,890 for later people like during the 14th 838 00:38:00,780 --> 00:37:56,460 century or even later to use those as a 839 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:00,790 secret way of communicating as well yeah 840 00:38:07,350 --> 00:38:04,090 and you know we we also found a bunch of 841 00:38:09,570 --> 00:38:07,360 graffiti like WS dire well WS dire the 842 00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:09,580 dyers were very famous this is a regular 843 00:38:14,190 --> 00:38:11,950 carved rock perfect conciliate seen as 844 00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:14,200 claire's could be it could be William 845 00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:16,030 dire it was the first attorney general 846 00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:17,740 with the Anne Hutchinson group that 847 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:20,350 settled there and this man's family was 848 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:23,260 uh goes back to like from his father's 849 00:38:27,810 --> 00:38:25,510 line to the royal families had a brother 850 00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:27,820 that was uh with the Knights Carter and 851 00:38:33,620 --> 00:38:30,480 was set to be a Rosicrucian 852 00:38:36,349 --> 00:38:33,630 so I mean that's an amazing piece I saw 853 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:36,359 another graffiti Hewitt he would 854 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:38,010 families were very well known in 855 00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:40,770 Connecticut and Rhode Island another 856 00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:42,420 person named Fox and I'm pretty sure 857 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:44,700 some of the foxes were with British 858 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,650 government during the course of the 859 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:49,680 American Revolution I'm not sure what 860 00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:51,210 other Fox would have been here but I 861 00:38:58,990 --> 00:38:53,820 just know of names from colonial history 862 00:39:01,490 --> 00:38:59,000 um in that sense then there was another 863 00:39:04,670 --> 00:39:01,500 interesting thing that when you when you 864 00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:04,680 look at this uh cement that's still 865 00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:07,500 stucco surviving it was overlooked that 866 00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:10,830 there's an X I found on that last patch 867 00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:13,350 of stucco that exists you can put your 868 00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:15,150 finger in it it's hard to see from the 869 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:17,280 image but if you follow the real dark 870 00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:19,170 cement go to the right and they go up 871 00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,940 that little Peninsula partners and the X 872 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:22,560 is right over there in the little 873 00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:24,810 whitish section and crosses over on to 874 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:27,900 that dark section what is it is it a 875 00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:30,090 hooked X I didn't see a hook is it a st. 876 00:39:36,020 --> 00:39:33,540 Andrew's cross or ronak we don't know 877 00:39:38,450 --> 00:39:36,030 yet but um there was some other 878 00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:38,460 interesting finds and especially with 879 00:39:42,859 --> 00:39:41,790 Cort on one special stone a couple 880 00:39:44,420 --> 00:39:42,869 couple other ones there's a little 881 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,430 grouping that I showed a picture of that 882 00:39:51,609 --> 00:39:47,280 there's some stuff that really does look 883 00:39:53,870 --> 00:39:51,619 like a couple of anglo-saxon ruins and 884 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:53,880 court you want to mention a couple the 885 00:40:00,200 --> 00:39:57,930 ones that we saw well there's a lot of X 886 00:40:03,710 --> 00:40:00,210 shapes that that you found in the in the 887 00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:03,720 carvings that you found obviously and 888 00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:07,080 that just from what I can see from 889 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:08,670 looking through the different types of 890 00:40:13,940 --> 00:40:10,770 runes they seem to resemble that type 891 00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:13,950 more than any other so that that's a 892 00:40:19,340 --> 00:40:17,310 good start at least and like you know I 893 00:40:21,590 --> 00:40:19,350 guess you know we have to say it could 894 00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:21,600 turn out that all these are later 895 00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:23,880 additions or we don't know for sure we 896 00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:26,280 do need more qualified people to look 897 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:29,040 but it is strange they do look older 898 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:32,490 they do look worn somewhat yeah that's 899 00:40:37,220 --> 00:40:34,290 why that some of them are hard to read 900 00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:37,230 but you it at least in all the 901 00:40:41,309 --> 00:40:39,030 photographs that you've taken you can 902 00:40:44,219 --> 00:40:41,319 see that there is an inscription there 903 00:40:46,650 --> 00:40:44,229 and you were actually there to to see it 904 00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:46,660 close up and tell what it what it said 905 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:51,180 yeah and then uh Renee we found this 906 00:40:55,499 --> 00:40:53,410 phone a rock that I just didn't pay 907 00:40:59,279 --> 00:40:55,509 attention to and court i sent them the 908 00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:59,289 image and he looked at it and it's got a 909 00:41:03,089 --> 00:41:01,119 holy symbol on there and it's a very 910 00:41:04,969 --> 00:41:03,099 important one would you like to tell 911 00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:04,979 them what that one is court sure it 912 00:41:10,319 --> 00:41:07,839 resembles the auspice of maria symbol 913 00:41:13,219 --> 00:41:10,329 which we've seen in other mysteries like 914 00:41:16,439 --> 00:41:13,229 the the great cyclocross of hand a and 915 00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:16,449 there are some gravestones a train 916 00:41:22,799 --> 00:41:19,209 lasciato that have the symbol on it and 917 00:41:27,449 --> 00:41:22,809 it's also the same symbol that San soul 918 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:27,459 piece uses a you know the order from The 919 00:41:33,089 --> 00:41:30,609 Da Vinci Code where the Rose line was in 920 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:33,099 the movie or the the array they have 921 00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:35,890 there in the chapel to mark the 922 00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,369 equinoxes yeah so that's interesting as 923 00:41:45,209 --> 00:41:41,920 well that that's a symbol that resembles 924 00:41:48,299 --> 00:41:45,219 the Masonic compass and square and it's 925 00:41:50,489 --> 00:41:48,309 involved in a lot of Gnostic wisdom its 926 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:50,499 present on the Gnostic cross of James 927 00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:54,249 Bruce that he recovered in Alexandria as 928 00:42:01,439 --> 00:41:57,609 part of the Vista Sophia which is also a 929 00:42:04,259 --> 00:42:01,449 valued Gnostic texts by templer groups 930 00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:04,269 and knighthoods so there's lots of 931 00:42:08,670 --> 00:42:06,609 connections too and I really need to 932 00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:08,680 point out kind of the Knights of Malta 933 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:12,910 connection to Rhode Island just on the 934 00:42:17,219 --> 00:42:15,249 most superficial level we see that the 935 00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,229 Knights of Malta used to be called the 936 00:42:22,099 --> 00:42:19,599 Knights of roads because their 937 00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:22,109 headquarters were on the Isle of roads 938 00:42:28,349 --> 00:42:26,140 yeah near south western Turkey Janice 939 00:42:33,059 --> 00:42:28,359 the court well here we have the Newport 940 00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:33,069 tower in Rhode Island is worried after 941 00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:36,160 that you have to hear this one Renee all 942 00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:38,049 right court okay you have to hear about 943 00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:40,390 about the Knights of Malta history with 944 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:43,209 Rhode Island i was born in a property of 945 00:42:47,630 --> 00:42:45,249 the name cockleshell and that was one of 946 00:42:51,779 --> 00:42:47,640 the early colonial governors green 947 00:42:53,970 --> 00:42:51,789 descendants ok so the governor coggles 948 00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:53,980 shell of Rhode Island living 949 00:42:59,400 --> 00:42:56,200 the island of newport area but 950 00:43:01,140 --> 00:42:59,410 middletown was area his line goes back 951 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:01,150 to these royal families and have a 952 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:02,530 chapel and that's where they first 953 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:05,170 brought in the first history I believe 954 00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:08,050 the first connection origin of when the 955 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:09,430 Knights of Malta came that's where they 956 00:43:14,030 --> 00:43:11,530 got set up on his property and chapel 957 00:43:16,859 --> 00:43:14,040 that he built connected to the Kings 958 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:16,869 it's pretty wild it on so you got a 959 00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:18,850 Rhode Island governor really early with 960 00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:21,430 his family going back to the fount right 961 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:22,750 at the time when they were connected to 962 00:43:26,970 --> 00:43:24,850 the Templars coming over and their 963 00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:26,980 connection so you have that with the 964 00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:31,270 early colony uh with a cockleshell 965 00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,310 governor right and we even see at the 966 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:35,440 time of Robert the Bruce Knights of 967 00:43:41,490 --> 00:43:38,710 Malta influence in Scotland as well yeah 968 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:41,500 and then what was the what was the other 969 00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:43,090 thing we found two other important 970 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:45,550 things in that same Rock Renee and that 971 00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:49,810 was a there's an st that cork saw it 972 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:51,460 pretty well and so did I and this is 973 00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:54,010 what I was looking for and it's it's a 974 00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,390 symbol that I'm going to really have to 975 00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:57,359 explain to people down the road because 976 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:00,720 it needs some in-depth research and 977 00:44:06,990 --> 00:44:04,570 there's it's it's it connects what I 978 00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:07,000 believe to the great seals and ancient 979 00:44:12,359 --> 00:44:09,430 families and also to the to the royal 980 00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:12,369 lines directly and it's it's commonly 981 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:15,310 seen in a lot of artworks and relics so 982 00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:17,770 so that was there i mean we found this 983 00:44:24,530 --> 00:44:20,230 and they made it really fat small but 984 00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:24,540 it's fact it's a fact cut and the other 985 00:44:29,940 --> 00:44:27,760 interesting thing was that court did 986 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:29,950 notice sideways way over to the left of 987 00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:34,570 the rock it's a sideways three cuts so 988 00:44:40,109 --> 00:44:37,420 deep and so hard into the stone it's so 989 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:40,119 perfect that you cannot mistaken I mean 990 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:42,730 I don't any academic that wants to say 991 00:44:47,609 --> 00:44:45,130 that that is not a three sideways or a 992 00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:47,619 symbol of that you know you gotta go get 993 00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:51,730 some help and the cool thing is it's 994 00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:55,270 identical to the three Arabic three 995 00:45:00,180 --> 00:44:57,160 that's on the big block but not only 996 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:00,190 that it's identical to the one on the 997 00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:02,890 other stone and the tiny little third 998 00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:06,220 date on the small stone so the one stone 999 00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:07,750 has two and then the big one 1000 00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:11,110 has the one bigger number and the little 1001 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:15,040 stone has an ST cut into it as well so 1002 00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:17,770 deep it cannot be missed it's not like 1003 00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:20,140 oh I'll you gotta look it's cut in deep 1004 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:23,140 so it's it can't mistake it so it's 1005 00:45:28,890 --> 00:45:25,450 almost like I'm seeing something that 1006 00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:28,900 resembles information that would be like 1007 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:31,960 a clean stone in a sense maybe it's just 1008 00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:33,910 a thought and I'm not saying is true it 1009 00:45:38,610 --> 00:45:36,460 just gives me this feeling that it with 1010 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:38,620 what I know that there's a possibility 1011 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:41,050 and that's why they're really needs to 1012 00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:45,010 be some some academics but also people 1013 00:45:49,620 --> 00:45:47,470 from the outside to come in and to 1014 00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:49,630 really see see it come together because 1015 00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:51,550 I think a lot more just from this 1016 00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:54,070 research here can bring traveling 1017 00:45:57,630 --> 00:45:55,960 scholars into Newport especially in the 1018 00:45:59,490 --> 00:45:57,640 winter they need that tell you want to 1019 00:46:01,230 --> 00:45:59,500 talk about a desolated place and then 1020 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:01,240 it's the most busy place in this in the 1021 00:46:07,770 --> 00:46:06,130 end the season summer and fall you know 1022 00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:07,780 when you're talking about that three 1023 00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:11,670 that sideways three is that like a three 1024 00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:14,500 that's upside down that looks like an M 1025 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:16,120 Carolyn the chat room was just 1026 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:19,090 mentioning that is it or is it turned up 1027 00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:21,670 the other way well let's just flat down 1028 00:46:26,580 --> 00:46:24,160 on its side like aw take it and drop it 1029 00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:26,590 down yes it looks like a woman it's more 1030 00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:29,110 like an M it is wait I mean more like an 1031 00:46:35,310 --> 00:46:31,990 M yes yeah you did you definitely see 1032 00:46:38,460 --> 00:46:35,320 that I've seen that a lot yeah you can 1033 00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:38,470 see the same handsome oh you did you 1034 00:46:45,450 --> 00:46:41,560 have yeah I've seen that on things and 1035 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:45,460 m's you know being done that way um on 1036 00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:47,440 the great seals don't you see him on all 1037 00:46:51,870 --> 00:46:49,510 the great seals great master paintings 1038 00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:51,880 mostly all the Scottish all the Scottish 1039 00:46:56,970 --> 00:46:54,430 relics you see him at all I mean I could 1040 00:46:58,740 --> 00:46:56,980 find hundreds of these but it's not this 1041 00:47:00,480 --> 00:46:58,750 is different it's never I never seen a 1042 00:47:02,340 --> 00:47:00,490 flattened down like that they're always 1043 00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:02,350 on their side standing that's why i said 1044 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:04,600 i was i took the picture a little the 1045 00:47:07,530 --> 00:47:06,070 one that's where steve said hey is that 1046 00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:07,540 a three and I I told you I thought it 1047 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:10,030 was one of these ancient symbol ease and 1048 00:47:14,190 --> 00:47:11,440 I just took it didn't bother with it you 1049 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:14,200 know until I was going to developer or 1050 00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:17,710 download the the pitchers and but it's 1051 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:19,480 amazing because these 1052 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:23,730 you can really compare now these other 1053 00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:26,530 Arabic symbols that they are numbers 1054 00:47:32,370 --> 00:47:29,550 with this symbol here and say there's 1055 00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:32,380 without a doubt there's the same hand 1056 00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:36,880 the same person did it and that's a 1057 00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:39,280 pretty amazing thing to find so it's not 1058 00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:40,630 just like there's one of these there's 1059 00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:43,710 four so there's a big one this big one a 1060 00:47:48,750 --> 00:47:46,390 fair-sized one on that smaller rock and 1061 00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:48,760 then a smaller set of numbers next to 1062 00:47:54,930 --> 00:47:50,710 the full set of numbers but there's also 1063 00:47:57,090 --> 00:47:54,940 an X there's also a big X and then a 1064 00:48:00,780 --> 00:47:57,100 smaller X on the rock with the two dates 1065 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:00,790 and hmm we were thinking about it in 1066 00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:02,290 court and I were just we were just 1067 00:48:06,420 --> 00:48:04,390 having a lot of fun just we had some 1068 00:48:08,370 --> 00:48:06,430 time the kids were sleeping and my kids 1069 00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:08,380 were and we're just we're going back and 1070 00:48:12,930 --> 00:48:09,640 forth and it was just like we had a 1071 00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:12,940 great time and I got to a link and then 1072 00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:15,670 all of a sudden now this fine brings us 1073 00:48:21,930 --> 00:48:19,270 back to favoring 17th century or that 1074 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:21,940 you know the late fifteen archers 1600 1075 00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:23,530 when this could have been built so it 1076 00:48:27,930 --> 00:48:25,780 kind of goes both ways you have ideas of 1077 00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:27,940 it being really really old but then you 1078 00:48:32,730 --> 00:48:29,350 still have information that connects to 1079 00:48:36,060 --> 00:48:32,740 it being into the sixteen hundreds and 1080 00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:36,070 and that was sorry go ahead when you I'm 1081 00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,230 sorry when you mentioned claim stone 1082 00:48:43,710 --> 00:48:41,200 before I was going to ask you what does 1083 00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:43,720 that mean exactly and also JimBob in the 1084 00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,720 chat room had the same question is that 1085 00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:48,880 you mean like claiming the land or 1086 00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,040 claiming that area as claiming the 1087 00:48:55,410 --> 00:48:53,200 property if you think about it just say 1088 00:48:57,630 --> 00:48:55,420 that this place was like stuck in your 1089 00:48:59,310 --> 00:48:57,640 claim that they were staking a claim but 1090 00:49:01,200 --> 00:48:59,320 they built this important celestial 1091 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:01,210 sight let's just say it's that right and 1092 00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:05,770 and for them to to have a claim they got 1093 00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:08,800 to leave information so how was or how 1094 00:49:13,620 --> 00:49:11,200 let's just not say my theory if it 1095 00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:13,630 really could ever have been way in the 1096 00:49:17,370 --> 00:49:15,880 past it would be the royal families 1097 00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:17,380 behind this you're not going to have 1098 00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:19,240 some Templars that are just some 1099 00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:21,580 low-level barons or family members that 1100 00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:23,140 are going to have the right it's going 1101 00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:25,510 to be under a king and that's my that's 1102 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:27,640 my idea if it is if it ever going to 1103 00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:30,250 ever be proven to the 13 hundreds and 1104 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:31,800 there's only one k now 1105 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:34,050 a lot of trouble and one group of people 1106 00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:36,330 that supported the Templars that were in 1107 00:49:40,610 --> 00:49:37,680 a lot of trouble and that's why they 1108 00:49:43,610 --> 00:49:40,620 made a declaration 1320 and if this song 1109 00:49:46,330 --> 00:49:43,620 says 1325 we're dealing with Robert the 1110 00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:46,340 Bruce and Scottish and so they're being 1111 00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:50,760 yeah yeah but not one Robert one King of 1112 00:49:56,860 --> 00:49:53,400 Scotland Robert yeah and you know he 1113 00:50:00,290 --> 00:49:56,870 would be this line of the the ancient 1114 00:50:02,180 --> 00:50:00,300 Delrita and the Pictish people and then 1115 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:02,190 the lines are also that you see these 1116 00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:04,290 Norman's that come over like believe it 1117 00:50:08,780 --> 00:50:06,510 or not I believe this éclairs are the 1118 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:08,790 Scott Fleming the Scott family the name 1119 00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:11,730 of Scotland is Fleming married to the 1120 00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:13,500 Royal lines like at the highest levels 1121 00:50:18,940 --> 00:50:16,500 of the Kings to the to the Stewart's who 1122 00:50:22,550 --> 00:50:18,950 were married with the Italian bloodlines 1123 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:22,560 the the English the English kings and 1124 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:25,290 the mixes so this is where their powers 1125 00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:28,170 came from their their titles and rights 1126 00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:29,910 but you have a name changed but the 1127 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:31,560 Fleming still stayed together with a 1128 00:50:36,890 --> 00:50:34,250 Fleming that was in the Royal House of 1129 00:50:39,830 --> 00:50:36,900 beggar's with the Royal House of the 1130 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:39,840 Sinclair's so they were all connected 1131 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:42,890 and same with Sinclair's wife Douglas 1132 00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,130 then Ascot real changes her name to 1133 00:50:51,380 --> 00:50:48,720 Douglas and that's the line there so 1134 00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:51,390 same people right and these are all the 1135 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:54,060 same people that are building the oral 1136 00:51:00,560 --> 00:50:57,090 oh she owns or octagonal structures yep 1137 00:51:02,270 --> 00:51:00,570 oh I've been talking about and who found 1138 00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:02,280 that who found the county with the 1139 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:05,520 Kensington Runestone both douglas county 1140 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:11,970 or counties always crazy the controlling 1141 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:14,610 interest of the Hudson's Bay Company in 1142 00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,210 time limit of my century and I was a 1143 00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:20,640 blush the red river colony there that 1144 00:51:25,610 --> 00:51:22,200 includes the area where both the 1145 00:51:28,190 --> 00:51:25,620 Kensington Runestone is located and the 1146 00:51:31,550 --> 00:51:28,200 sand stone pillar that buff Perry has 1147 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:31,560 been talking about Owen Renee back to 1148 00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:33,690 you up to Jim Bob who had a question is 1149 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:36,660 that for a land claim if these people 1150 00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:39,690 had a new world that is a hundred Fort 1151 00:51:43,250 --> 00:51:40,800 Knox's 1152 00:51:44,930 --> 00:51:43,260 the whole thing about that is that what 1153 00:51:46,820 --> 00:51:44,940 do you guys do just have one rock and 1154 00:51:48,650 --> 00:51:46,830 then a royal family is going to dispute 1155 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:48,660 that with the Spanish against their 1156 00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:51,450 Spanish or or or other European royal 1157 00:51:55,790 --> 00:51:53,040 cousins and say that's our land but 1158 00:51:58,220 --> 00:51:55,800 based on one rock it doesn't work you 1159 00:52:00,560 --> 00:51:58,230 can so there would be more rocks you 1160 00:52:03,110 --> 00:52:00,570 know that but yeah I found this that's 1161 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:03,120 the second third one that it makes me 1162 00:52:07,070 --> 00:52:04,650 believe that there's going to be more 1163 00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:07,080 there as well right and this is the 1164 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:10,200 whole reason we later may have seen the 1165 00:52:16,850 --> 00:52:13,050 Elizabethan faction trying to kind of 1166 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:16,860 hijack the axis there in that manner 1167 00:52:23,180 --> 00:52:21,090 even as far as building star castle on 1168 00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:23,190 the Isles of skelly which is an 1169 00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:25,230 octagonal structure that points directly 1170 00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:28,710 to the Newport tower and along this 1171 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:30,900 azimuth that points to the Newport tower 1172 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:34,050 the Mayflower Compact was signed and 1173 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:36,450 this is a tradition of them claiming 1174 00:52:42,770 --> 00:52:39,810 property in these kinds of context and 1175 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:42,780 note also even just the name of star 1176 00:52:50,030 --> 00:52:47,040 castle itself feeds into the old method 1177 00:52:54,860 --> 00:52:50,040 by which these places were legally 1178 00:52:57,260 --> 00:52:54,870 described and claimed it's a it's an 1179 00:52:59,330 --> 00:52:57,270 amazing thing and now the new one of the 1180 00:53:02,540 --> 00:52:59,340 other theories that goes back to help in 1181 00:53:05,780 --> 00:53:02,550 Jim Egan for his belief with his theory 1182 00:53:08,030 --> 00:53:05,790 I didn't know but I saw not one rock 1183 00:53:10,580 --> 00:53:08,040 that there's a name Yost and I know he's 1184 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:10,590 seen this and if that name is there and 1185 00:53:16,420 --> 00:53:13,110 that's part of what's in his document 1186 00:53:19,970 --> 00:53:16,430 that he has online about John D's 1187 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:19,980 engraving associate a famous and gray 1188 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:23,730 burning Yost amen was that guy really 1189 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:26,850 there is that his mark in the 1580s 1190 00:53:33,170 --> 00:53:30,570 could it be wow yeah does he say it no I 1191 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:33,180 don't hear him saying it or anybody but 1192 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:37,770 if it is that would be very cool and it 1193 00:53:42,740 --> 00:53:40,530 just goes to show that you know we don't 1194 00:53:45,290 --> 00:53:42,750 know and you know the guy doesn't have 1195 00:53:48,110 --> 00:53:45,300 his last name there but there's another 1196 00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,120 theory that favors gym again and that 1197 00:53:53,450 --> 00:53:50,880 theory is is that when I was doing this 1198 00:53:56,570 --> 00:53:53,460 research about these these X's 1199 00:53:58,130 --> 00:53:56,580 and these numbers and dates I came 1200 00:54:01,870 --> 00:53:58,140 across when I was looking at the st. 1201 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:01,880 Andrews history of the flag and the NEX 1202 00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:05,490 there's a thing called a witch's post in 1203 00:54:14,570 --> 00:54:11,369 a witch's post is known to be used where 1204 00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:14,580 on all pillars lentils on the structures 1205 00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:17,369 of doorways right support structures 1206 00:54:25,099 --> 00:54:20,550 that they employ at least they put dates 1207 00:54:28,070 --> 00:54:25,109 they put the st. Andrew's cross there 1208 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:28,080 and these the this is to rep to keep 1209 00:54:33,550 --> 00:54:30,810 away ghosts and evil spirits which is an 1210 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:33,560 edict right Gary but she is an ex yes 1211 00:54:40,730 --> 00:54:36,690 which is an ex the it's the cross of st. 1212 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:40,740 Andrews and that was adopted in 1320 the 1213 00:54:46,130 --> 00:54:43,290 the cross for flags in the scene Andrews 1214 00:54:48,349 --> 00:54:46,140 history for Scotland which is a word in 1215 00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:48,359 a ballpark for the time but the point 1216 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:50,520 the only thing that's going to make it 1217 00:54:54,740 --> 00:54:52,890 tough is that there's very little known 1218 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:54,750 there's a bunch of these post surviving 1219 00:55:02,240 --> 00:54:57,810 they're mostly like 1600 1700 a couple 1220 00:55:04,579 --> 00:55:02,250 into the 1800s surviving and there's not 1221 00:55:06,530 --> 00:55:04,589 a lot on documentation of when this was 1222 00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:06,540 created or when it happened for all we 1223 00:55:10,910 --> 00:55:08,700 know is that this is when it could have 1224 00:55:13,460 --> 00:55:10,920 happened and what does that do for Scott 1225 00:55:18,859 --> 00:55:13,470 Wolter with his theory about this being 1226 00:55:22,339 --> 00:55:18,869 a religious not not only a celestial 1227 00:55:23,930 --> 00:55:22,349 sight is that why would they need that 1228 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:23,940 right there to keep goes out they were 1229 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:25,410 living in there so how could this be a 1230 00:55:29,690 --> 00:55:27,690 windmill if they were putting these if 1231 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:29,700 this was what it is these go around 1232 00:55:33,950 --> 00:55:31,650 these would go around the whole entire 1233 00:55:35,570 --> 00:55:33,960 openings of all the door structures it's 1234 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:35,580 so there may be a lot more of these 1235 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:39,330 right in this it does resemble a templer 1236 00:55:44,210 --> 00:55:42,450 church especially when the stucco was on 1237 00:55:46,579 --> 00:55:44,220 the structure it would have looked a lot 1238 00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:46,589 like the template riches on bornholm 1239 00:55:52,190 --> 00:55:49,440 island that Henry Lincoln and airlink 1240 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,200 Hagen ssin speaks of and had a 1241 00:55:56,930 --> 00:55:54,480 contextual historians think that's out 1242 00:55:59,300 --> 00:55:56,940 to in their analysis of the Newport 1243 00:56:01,400 --> 00:55:59,310 tower yeah why another X in the stucco 1244 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:01,410 today like double up on it they do it 1245 00:56:05,540 --> 00:56:03,690 later on years later so that they can 1246 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:05,550 keep the spirits out because it wasn't 1247 00:56:09,260 --> 00:56:07,170 windmill well there's no reason to have 1248 00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:09,270 people sleeping in a windmill unless you 1249 00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:10,380 had something like children you know 1250 00:56:14,090 --> 00:56:12,510 usually kept in denture servants in here 1251 00:56:16,250 --> 00:56:14,100 but would they go that far for a budget 1252 00:56:19,370 --> 00:56:16,260 indentured servants sleeping in a window 1253 00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:19,380 maybe I don't know but it's just a 1254 00:56:24,350 --> 00:56:21,480 theory you know but it's it's a great 1255 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:24,360 thing because it can still favor going 1256 00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:26,730 back to the this actually being built in 1257 00:56:33,710 --> 00:56:30,000 the sixteen and seventeen hundreds so 1258 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:33,720 it's it's still a toss-up and I'm not 1259 00:56:38,090 --> 00:56:35,490 going to stand out there and say hey 1260 00:56:40,610 --> 00:56:38,100 this is what it is but this is how it 1261 00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:40,620 was used and why it would be there 1262 00:56:45,890 --> 00:56:43,680 because that is its document it exists 1263 00:56:47,660 --> 00:56:45,900 but it doesn't go past the 16 or 15 1264 00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,670 hundreds i think it doesn't go point 1265 00:56:53,540 --> 00:56:49,440 past that but they don't know no one 1266 00:56:55,070 --> 00:56:53,550 knows how that's well you know it's 1267 00:56:58,010 --> 00:56:55,080 believe it or not it's time for another 1268 00:56:59,870 --> 00:56:58,020 quick break and we will be right back 1269 00:57:02,360 --> 00:56:59,880 here on night vision with gary giannotti 1270 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:02,370 in court lindell and me Renee Barnett 1271 00:57:06,770 --> 00:57:04,410 we'll be right back in your back with 1272 00:57:09,950 --> 00:57:06,780 night-vision radio i am your host Renee 1273 00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:09,960 Barnett I'm talking with author Court 1274 00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:12,960 Lendl and research or Gary giannotti 1275 00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:15,870 about Gary's recent finds at the 1276 00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:20,480 mysterious Newport tower seem to be some 1277 00:57:25,580 --> 00:57:23,310 possible runic riding on there seems to 1278 00:57:28,460 --> 00:57:25,590 be some dates and things like that we're 1279 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:28,470 asking everybody to have a look and in 1280 00:57:33,350 --> 00:57:30,570 particular experts it you know and 1281 00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:33,360 please tell us what you see tell us what 1282 00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:36,240 you think now we were just talking about 1283 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:40,670 this idea of a which post possibly there 1284 00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:43,410 Gary and you were talking about these 1285 00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:46,140 particular symbols the the exes or the 1286 00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:49,760 crosses that were on the which post and 1287 00:57:57,550 --> 00:57:53,040 can court did you have something to add 1288 00:58:00,830 --> 00:57:57,560 about that the Gary made the observation 1289 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:00,840 mostly that there's two x's on the posts 1290 00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,010 of the new tower in this match is kind 1291 00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:07,440 of the the cultural application of what 1292 00:58:14,020 --> 00:58:11,520 was known as a which post in north 1293 00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:14,030 eastern England during a certain period 1294 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:16,920 so Gary found this and started to 1295 00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,210 speculate as to what 1296 00:58:24,740 --> 00:58:20,640 it might mean oh of course the X is a 1297 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:24,750 runic symbol as well and can mean a lot 1298 00:58:29,450 --> 00:58:26,970 of different things but but the idea 1299 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:29,460 that Gary has is great and it's entirely 1300 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:34,250 possible that this is what it represents 1301 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:37,650 so oh I wouldn't be surprised as you 1302 00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:39,450 know as we were on break i was looking 1303 00:58:47,329 --> 00:58:44,070 at you know some information about which 1304 00:58:49,550 --> 00:58:47,339 posts online in it it's pretty 1305 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:49,560 interesting and it sort of they were 1306 00:58:58,849 --> 00:58:56,010 used as sort of as a hack sign on fire 1307 00:59:01,280 --> 00:58:58,859 places or on door ways to prevent you 1308 00:59:03,260 --> 00:59:01,290 know evil beings or witches from either 1309 00:59:05,780 --> 00:59:03,270 flying down the chimney are coming in 1310 00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:05,790 through any of the openings and the gary 1311 00:59:11,540 --> 00:59:07,910 was saying probably if that is a which 1312 00:59:13,370 --> 00:59:11,550 post symbol they're probably more is 1313 00:59:15,950 --> 00:59:13,380 that right because you can block them at 1314 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:15,960 every at every opening yeah and that's 1315 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:18,450 what's jetta Steve's got to get on that 1316 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:19,890 that's what that's important about the 1317 00:59:24,349 --> 00:59:22,770 guys in Rhode Island and them they need 1318 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:24,359 really need to just really start scoping 1319 00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:26,970 that out because if it's correct they 1320 00:59:33,140 --> 00:59:29,849 may find it on every pillar no doubt it 1321 00:59:35,870 --> 00:59:33,150 can be I mean it's just me were so born 1322 00:59:38,359 --> 00:59:35,880 we can't see them but die that's it's 1323 00:59:40,550 --> 00:59:38,369 interesting that the similar XX design 1324 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:40,560 is president in the auspice of Maria 1325 00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:42,930 symbol that we're discussing earlier and 1326 00:59:49,810 --> 00:59:45,780 it's also present on the great cross of 1327 00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:49,820 on day and the the auspice in believing 1328 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:53,280 translates to the arms of the Montezuma 1329 01:00:00,050 --> 00:59:56,250 family of Spain that are descendants of 1330 01:00:04,370 --> 01:00:00,060 Emperor Montezuma of the Aztecs in 1331 01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:04,380 Mexico there's a lot of different 1332 01:00:09,650 --> 01:00:07,680 interpretations also the double X if I 1333 01:00:14,750 --> 01:00:09,660 was the mark put on all the Royal 1334 01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:14,760 Spanish golds so there there's a long 1335 01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:17,520 heritage and value of that symbol in 1336 01:00:23,660 --> 01:00:20,880 different cultures that that may lead to 1337 01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:23,670 the same meaning and and there's alchemy 1338 01:00:28,070 --> 01:00:25,920 symbols I think of magic or whatever 1339 01:00:28,359 --> 01:00:28,080 that they call it Scrolls that go on the 1340 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:28,369 way 1341 01:00:32,499 --> 01:00:30,890 and their symbolism on on these wood 1342 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:32,509 posts that you can just make them out 1343 01:00:37,450 --> 01:00:35,450 from what few images exist so I'm going 1344 01:00:38,829 --> 01:00:37,460 to try to contact this museum that has 1345 01:00:42,279 --> 01:00:38,839 them and ask for some of these photos 1346 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:42,289 that I can get down to to have for this 1347 01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:43,970 a little bit of this work and for the 1348 01:00:48,430 --> 01:00:46,910 people that want to see this and it's 1349 01:00:50,769 --> 01:00:48,440 kind of and there were and there were 1350 01:00:54,220 --> 01:00:50,779 some marks that look like the symbolism 1351 01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:54,230 of this st what is it I don't know so 1352 01:01:01,390 --> 01:00:56,960 not yet I have ideas that's another 1353 01:01:03,069 --> 01:01:01,400 interesting when the st you know if you 1354 01:01:06,749 --> 01:01:03,079 don't mind guys we're going to take a 1355 01:01:11,170 --> 01:01:06,759 couple questions from the chat room 1356 01:01:14,289 --> 01:01:11,180 first one is from Bill and he said has 1357 01:01:18,759 --> 01:01:14,299 any carbon dating been done and if so 1358 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:18,769 what were the findings you know if there 1359 01:01:22,420 --> 01:01:20,690 has been any carbon dating done at the 1360 01:01:25,029 --> 01:01:22,430 Newport tower either one of you guys I 1361 01:01:27,819 --> 01:01:25,039 know that that one of the local 1362 01:01:30,940 --> 01:01:27,829 historical groups excavated and did find 1363 01:01:34,479 --> 01:01:30,950 post holes that seemed to indicate there 1364 01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,489 was an ambulatory or kind of an awning 1365 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:36,559 around the Newport tower at one point 1366 01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:40,130 but the carbon dating results were 1367 01:01:45,069 --> 01:01:43,249 inconclusive and then somebody else did 1368 01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,079 some testing in this the stucco or 1369 01:01:50,620 --> 01:01:47,839 something they tested it and from what I 1370 01:01:52,539 --> 01:01:50,630 read and when I was told that it was 1371 01:01:54,460 --> 01:01:52,549 inconclusive they didn't it wasn't 1372 01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:54,470 accurate or something it didn't work out 1373 01:01:59,620 --> 01:01:56,960 either well those dates yeah I was 1374 01:02:01,479 --> 01:01:59,630 wondering if there was a way I'm sorry 1375 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:01,489 court I was wondering if there was a way 1376 01:02:06,309 --> 01:02:03,650 to test that stucco to see if there was 1377 01:02:08,769 --> 01:02:06,319 any possible way of dating it was that 1378 01:02:12,609 --> 01:02:08,779 originally on there or was that added 1379 01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:12,619 later but well the stucco dated too well 1380 01:02:19,539 --> 01:02:14,720 given the things that I read about it 1381 01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:19,549 dated to the 17th century so but that I 1382 01:02:24,430 --> 01:02:21,710 see people speculate that it could have 1383 01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:24,440 been repaired and there is an 1384 01:02:30,190 --> 01:02:27,710 architectural historian that wrote it up 1385 01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:30,200 and said originally it was clay mortar 1386 01:02:35,529 --> 01:02:32,480 that was used in the structure and the 1387 01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:35,539 shell mortar later may have been added 1388 01:02:42,569 --> 01:02:39,240 to renovate the structure 1389 01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:42,579 well it's possible that is away it's 1390 01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:43,900 another it's still up in the air like 1391 01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:46,510 everything else so so so if it's a 1392 01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:49,119 witch's post and you know it's it must 1393 01:02:54,589 --> 01:02:51,790 have been used by you know probably 1394 01:02:56,809 --> 01:02:54,599 people partially living there too so 1395 01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:56,819 prayer or whatever they're doing a 1396 01:03:01,170 --> 01:02:59,200 monk's whatever they were doing there 1397 01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:01,180 yeah it might have been an important 1398 01:03:07,319 --> 01:03:02,950 spot for some reason that they wanted to 1399 01:03:10,109 --> 01:03:07,329 keep you know sacred or or without you 1400 01:03:14,099 --> 01:03:10,119 know molestation by demons and ghosts 1401 01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:14,109 and witches but I'm also Neutron asks 1402 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:17,260 did anyone notice if they lost GPS 1403 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:20,170 readings inside they've ever heard 1404 01:03:24,020 --> 01:03:21,730 anything about that or did you guys have 1405 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:24,030 any experiences with anything like that 1406 01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:29,050 are you too excited to notice actually I 1407 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:30,880 actually took a couple weird pictures 1408 01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:32,530 and they're like all foggy you know in 1409 01:03:36,839 --> 01:03:34,240 courts is all its high-speed I mean like 1410 01:03:38,579 --> 01:03:36,849 I took a it's just weird my iphone took 1411 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:38,589 some bizarre pictures that were like a 1412 01:03:43,859 --> 01:03:40,930 fog but it was most likely when your 1413 01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:43,869 camera moves fast no that's about it but 1414 01:03:49,890 --> 01:03:46,420 no oh court yeah court don't be a party 1415 01:03:52,289 --> 01:03:49,900 pooper I mean I want to see some guys 1416 01:03:54,569 --> 01:03:52,299 picked it works this is weird i said my 1417 01:03:56,579 --> 01:03:54,579 camera's no i mean i swung like you know 1418 01:03:58,349 --> 01:03:56,589 taking pictures snapped fast on 1419 01:04:00,000 --> 01:03:58,359 different angles my camera's never done 1420 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:00,010 that before i'll tell you that that's 1421 01:04:04,620 --> 01:04:02,170 the truth but it looked like a ghost 1422 01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:04,630 eNOS I want to see those I'm yeah I'm 1423 01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:07,270 gonna see those pictures oh yeah I'll 1424 01:04:14,940 --> 01:04:10,710 say that there's 30 min break succession 1425 01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:14,950 no that's cool and I see bill also wants 1426 01:04:23,099 --> 01:04:19,270 to know if if this could have been used 1427 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:23,109 for astronomy since there are certain 1428 01:04:27,569 --> 01:04:24,970 alignments that pertaining to the 1429 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:27,579 construction IE pillars and small 1430 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:31,930 windows I think we kind of got into that 1431 01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:33,730 a little bit already and we were talking 1432 01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:36,549 about certainly you know Scott Wolter 1433 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:40,510 had noted that there was something that 1434 01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:45,490 occurred during the Solstice with one of 1435 01:04:52,229 --> 01:04:49,569 the windows in an alignment that way and 1436 01:04:54,719 --> 01:04:52,239 we talked about a astrology 1437 01:04:56,969 --> 01:04:54,729 but certainly in the ancient world 1438 01:04:58,259 --> 01:04:56,979 astronomy and astrology were almost one 1439 01:05:00,749 --> 01:04:58,269 in the same I mean they were kind of 1440 01:05:02,489 --> 01:05:00,759 more tied together one thing yeah and I 1441 01:05:05,059 --> 01:05:02,499 wanted to mention this to that's 1442 01:05:07,019 --> 01:05:05,069 important when it comes to the 1443 01:05:09,689 --> 01:05:07,029 astronomers and scientists of the 1444 01:05:12,839 --> 01:05:09,699 ancient times I spoke to somebody about 1445 01:05:14,669 --> 01:05:12,849 these these Arabic numbers with Saxons 1446 01:05:16,589 --> 01:05:14,679 and these families and it's this one 1447 01:05:18,419 --> 01:05:16,599 professor out in Toronto said odd now 1448 01:05:20,369 --> 01:05:18,429 that would never exist you know would 1449 01:05:25,619 --> 01:05:20,379 never happen but it's like I've showed 1450 01:05:27,389 --> 01:05:25,629 Corp I've got the photos of Douglas Lord 1451 01:05:29,879 --> 01:05:27,399 Douglas who went on the crusade who 1452 01:05:33,809 --> 01:05:29,889 carried the heart of the Bruce right his 1453 01:05:35,699 --> 01:05:33,819 swords engraved with 13 30 or 31 on the 1454 01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:35,709 sword and it's it's exquisite you know 1455 01:05:40,919 --> 01:05:38,799 and so these families of this group were 1456 01:05:44,279 --> 01:05:40,929 using Arabic numbers but we were talking 1457 01:05:48,209 --> 01:05:44,289 about how and who would have given you 1458 01:05:52,139 --> 01:05:48,219 know early on into Scotland and England 1459 01:05:54,209 --> 01:05:52,149 these Arabic Arabic studies and formulas 1460 01:05:56,669 --> 01:05:54,219 and there was one specific person and 1461 01:05:58,319 --> 01:05:56,679 that was a descendant of the Scott 1462 01:06:01,469 --> 01:05:58,329 family that we're talking about that 1463 01:06:03,809 --> 01:06:01,479 this Fleming family and that's the Wiz 1464 01:06:06,629 --> 01:06:03,819 right the most famous wizard that they 1465 01:06:08,909 --> 01:06:06,639 represent as Merlin that that's how they 1466 01:06:11,699 --> 01:06:08,919 identify him is the real Merlin of the 1467 01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:11,709 UK and Scotland his name of Michael 1468 01:06:17,219 --> 01:06:14,049 Scott the wizard he was a lord as well 1469 01:06:19,529 --> 01:06:17,229 and it was one of the greatest academics 1470 01:06:20,849 --> 01:06:19,539 and astrologers astronomy and court 1471 01:06:23,279 --> 01:06:20,859 could tell you about what he did with 1472 01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:23,289 designing and engineering think so he 1473 01:06:29,179 --> 01:06:27,129 translated uh Arabic books or was one of 1474 01:06:32,339 --> 01:06:29,189 the earliest persons to do that from 1475 01:06:34,739 --> 01:06:32,349 Scotland and England and let court he 1476 01:06:37,799 --> 01:06:34,749 could tell you it more specific spot all 1477 01:06:40,409 --> 01:06:37,809 right well first of all the there was 1478 01:06:44,579 --> 01:06:40,419 likely an ephemeris collected at the 1479 01:06:47,219 --> 01:06:44,589 Newport tower or a start log that would 1480 01:06:49,679 --> 01:06:47,229 enable them to compare their position on 1481 01:06:52,859 --> 01:06:49,689 the globe to other places where 1482 01:06:57,869 --> 01:06:52,869 ephemeris had been collected so this is 1483 01:07:01,229 --> 01:06:57,879 a tradition that was a saved by the 1484 01:07:04,049 --> 01:07:01,239 Muslims during the Dark Ages and was 1485 01:07:05,009 --> 01:07:04,059 later translated by people like Michael 1486 01:07:11,459 --> 01:07:05,019 Scott 1487 01:07:15,209 --> 01:07:11,469 of he was kind of like a John Dee 1488 01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:15,219 character 300 years or 400 years prior 1489 01:07:23,009 --> 01:07:18,729 to John Dee he was known as a Magi a 1490 01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:23,019 traveling mystic and he also did a lot 1491 01:07:28,259 --> 01:07:24,880 of work in the court of Frederick the 1492 01:07:31,499 --> 01:07:28,269 second who was the Italian Norman ruler 1493 01:07:34,709 --> 01:07:31,509 of Sicily and Naples which encompassed 1494 01:07:37,019 --> 01:07:34,719 southern Italy and Frederick the second 1495 01:07:41,189 --> 01:07:37,029 built the octagonal tower at Monta st. 1496 01:07:43,849 --> 01:07:41,199 Angelo that is oriented to point to the 1497 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:43,859 Tower of the winds and Athens the 1498 01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:47,890 International Peace Garden and the 1499 01:07:53,459 --> 01:07:51,249 octagonal tower in girona spain and if 1500 01:07:55,499 --> 01:07:53,469 you look into the people that built all 1501 01:08:01,169 --> 01:07:55,509 of these structures they are members of 1502 01:08:03,509 --> 01:08:01,179 the same family line that's why isn't it 1503 01:08:06,689 --> 01:08:03,519 true that you you first found these 1504 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:06,699 alignments and these structures before 1505 01:08:11,939 --> 01:08:08,890 you realize the family connections right 1506 01:08:14,429 --> 01:08:11,949 that's true I was kind of just starting 1507 01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:14,439 to come to this realization through my 1508 01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:17,440 examination of exiled king henry the 1509 01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:19,630 fifth and his association with what's 1510 01:08:25,919 --> 01:08:22,480 known as the Frenchman's tower here in 1511 01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:25,929 California in Palo Alto and he was a 1512 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:30,150 Stuart family member and had many Norman 1513 01:08:36,779 --> 01:08:34,210 ancestry family members as well and is 1514 01:08:40,410 --> 01:08:36,789 related to Frederick the second and and 1515 01:08:42,990 --> 01:08:40,420 Renee of Anjou other personages that 1516 01:08:45,779 --> 01:08:43,000 have been mentioned in relation to the 1517 01:08:48,689 --> 01:08:45,789 rain lush a total mystery and recently 1518 01:08:54,509 --> 01:08:48,699 I've even been finding that Henry the 1519 01:08:57,079 --> 01:08:54,519 fifth it according to many respected 1520 01:08:59,640 --> 01:08:57,089 rating last Chateau researchers have 1521 01:09:02,789 --> 01:08:59,650 contributed the money to have the rain 1522 01:09:06,329 --> 01:09:02,799 Lee Chateau Chapel renovated with father 1523 01:09:09,059 --> 01:09:06,339 saunière originally so there we see a 1524 01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:09,069 distinct family connection and almost 1525 01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:12,369 all of these mysteries from Scotland to 1526 01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:15,490 France to Italy to the United States 1527 01:09:21,930 --> 01:09:19,510 all of them the records and the ways you 1528 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:21,940 can find out who was involved in 1529 01:09:27,630 --> 01:09:24,730 creating these places link directly back 1530 01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:27,640 to the same people that Gary found in 1531 01:09:33,450 --> 01:09:29,980 his studies of Engraving and other 1532 01:09:35,340 --> 01:09:33,460 relics that was an amazing thing and oh 1533 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:35,350 I want you to know about this one Renee 1534 01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:37,330 with Scott family and the connection to 1535 01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:40,000 the Templars okay they haven't proven 1536 01:09:44,790 --> 01:09:43,060 that a Fleming was a Templar right but 1537 01:09:46,170 --> 01:09:44,800 they were directly connected right at 1538 01:09:48,110 --> 01:09:46,180 the top with all these families from 1539 01:09:50,340 --> 01:09:48,120 their bloodlines going back to Roman 1540 01:09:52,590 --> 01:09:50,350 where they're from Rouen France and 1541 01:09:55,940 --> 01:09:52,600 they're all connected to the william the 1542 01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:55,950 conqueror's wife's family's which is 1543 01:10:00,810 --> 01:09:58,690 Baldwin one of the kings of Jerusalem so 1544 01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:00,820 we got a direct line right to the you 1545 01:10:07,380 --> 01:10:02,800 know to the Kings in the holy land with 1546 01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:07,390 these families directly and so the 1547 01:10:13,470 --> 01:10:10,390 second High Steward who is the Stuart 1548 01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:13,480 family is the half-brother of the 1549 01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:16,450 Fleming's our sister married the Fleming 1550 01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:19,120 Scott changed his name right there this 1551 01:10:24,750 --> 01:10:21,520 Stuart was the one of the biggest 1552 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:24,760 Templar supporters in aids for the 1553 01:10:29,070 --> 01:10:27,250 Templars to come into Scotland and on 1554 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:29,080 those lands of the property that were 1555 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:30,610 given that are the Fleming Scott 1556 01:10:35,010 --> 01:10:33,130 families in battle moore is one of the 1557 01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:35,020 first commanderies are and that's their 1558 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:37,420 direct link to them these families 1559 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:39,730 directly and that's been overlooked by 1560 01:10:44,220 --> 01:10:42,210 everybody that's a Templar scholar 1561 01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:44,230 everyone in that sense they're not 1562 01:10:48,570 --> 01:10:45,760 seeing it and then when I did work on 1563 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:48,580 the the late fifteen hundred Scott 1564 01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:51,250 family is the super academic head of all 1565 01:10:56,940 --> 01:10:53,440 the government and who controlled all of 1566 01:11:00,600 --> 01:10:56,950 the charters head Chancery sir john 1567 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:00,610 scott ascot starve it in his Tower he's 1568 01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:03,370 got the Templars or a streean fire 1569 01:11:10,010 --> 01:11:06,310 pillars in there the identical one done 1570 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:10,020 on the United States Great Seal original 1571 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:12,930 proposal drawing it cannot be mistaken 1572 01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:15,610 he Jerome the Scott family drew our 1573 01:11:20,940 --> 01:11:18,310 great sales these families are behind 1574 01:11:24,860 --> 01:11:20,950 that so this Lord had all the rights to 1575 01:11:27,470 --> 01:11:24,870 control for the crown all charters and 1576 01:11:29,260 --> 01:11:27,480 that had been in the family's title and 1577 01:11:31,450 --> 01:11:29,270 basically 1578 01:11:33,930 --> 01:11:31,460 you're saying is all these symbols that 1579 01:11:37,660 --> 01:11:33,940 ended up in the Great Seal and other 1580 01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:37,670 engravings like that were put in by 1581 01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:38,960 these families or by the Scott family 1582 01:11:47,020 --> 01:11:43,490 and why do you think that they chose 1583 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:47,030 what they chose I mean is there is it a 1584 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:50,090 message to someone is it again sort of 1585 01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:52,850 ass taking of a claim of these families 1586 01:11:59,050 --> 01:11:55,760 what do you think it it means that 1587 01:12:01,030 --> 01:11:59,060 they've incorporated those into our into 1588 01:12:02,980 --> 01:12:01,040 the Great Seal of America well they're 1589 01:12:06,430 --> 01:12:02,990 telling you who founded this country 1590 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:06,440 it's them it's these royal families that 1591 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:08,570 are the mix of the Vikings English 1592 01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:10,610 Scottish going back to the ancient world 1593 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:13,040 of the Celts going back all the way to 1594 01:12:17,470 --> 01:12:14,930 the Middle East and back to Egypt and 1595 01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:17,480 that's what my research works are and 1596 01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:19,910 that I'm like way into it I mean um I'm 1597 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:22,640 eating some amazing scholars and I'm 1598 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:25,250 learning some I'm starting to learn real 1599 01:12:30,940 --> 01:12:28,730 ancient history and its bits it's I just 1600 01:12:34,420 --> 01:12:30,950 want to go farther back in time but 1601 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:34,430 these direct families they they created 1602 01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:36,170 our banks during the American Revolution 1603 01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,030 so pretty much everything about our 1604 01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:40,400 founding fathers is that they were all 1605 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:42,800 puppets every one of them so is Ben 1606 01:12:46,990 --> 01:12:44,810 Franklin he was a puppet I got more any 1607 01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:47,000 wants to dispute me send me a letter and 1608 01:12:52,210 --> 01:12:48,310 email and i'll show you the information 1609 01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:52,220 Ben Franklin's uh grandmother right she 1610 01:12:56,590 --> 01:12:54,110 was an indentured servant during the 1611 01:12:59,260 --> 01:12:56,600 wars so he favored the Jacobites he was 1612 01:13:02,590 --> 01:12:59,270 a secret Jacobite that's who set him up 1613 01:13:04,540 --> 01:13:02,600 and same with George Washington he was a 1614 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:04,550 it was working for the Jacobites and 1615 01:13:08,860 --> 01:13:06,410 when you see the new stuff were coming 1616 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:08,870 out with his Majesty stuff and relics 1617 01:13:13,420 --> 01:13:10,850 that you're going to see these symbols 1618 01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:13,430 preserved and relics that are now going 1619 01:13:16,900 --> 01:13:15,710 to become more valuable than coins but I 1620 01:13:18,850 --> 01:13:16,910 don't want to see what the relics are 1621 01:13:21,130 --> 01:13:18,860 because it's a private project that I'm 1622 01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,140 working on with a very close associate 1623 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:23,600 of mine that we just hit it off as 1624 01:13:28,060 --> 01:13:26,570 friends and the symbolism bulls away 1625 01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:28,070 anything in coins of the United States 1626 01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:30,560 but it's all the same symbolism same 1627 01:13:36,970 --> 01:13:32,480 people they introduced the all-seeing 1628 01:13:39,370 --> 01:13:36,980 eye uh and I can it's been proven now so 1629 01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:39,380 it's a it's it's a different ball of wax 1630 01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:42,190 now but the but they did it from 1631 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:43,870 from the founding probably of this 1632 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:45,610 there's no question the founding of this 1633 01:13:48,959 --> 01:13:47,650 associated not let's not just say it's 1634 01:13:50,970 --> 01:13:48,969 just the tower because we don't know 1635 01:13:52,979 --> 01:13:50,980 which families or groups who built it 1636 01:13:55,729 --> 01:13:52,989 yet but everything else would all the 1637 01:13:58,590 --> 01:13:55,739 land is it's pretty much its salt and 1638 01:14:01,560 --> 01:13:58,600 with quartz information and what he's 1639 01:14:04,290 --> 01:14:01,570 done in my work I would say by the end 1640 01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:04,300 of the year I could wind up giving the 1641 01:14:10,670 --> 01:14:07,660 full true history of the origins of the 1642 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:10,680 United States back to the ancient world 1643 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:13,810 right and all of this kind of leads to 1644 01:14:19,740 --> 01:14:17,290 the the legend of who gave the Great 1645 01:14:23,370 --> 01:14:19,750 Seal of the United States to Thomas 1646 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:23,380 Jefferson of strange cloaked figure yes 1647 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:26,530 Robert Scott and he was a his father was 1648 01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:29,650 a secret Jacobite and believed they were 1649 01:14:34,670 --> 01:14:31,420 like the unknown superiors he had a 1650 01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:34,680 group of them when the Bonnie Prince 1651 01:14:38,810 --> 01:14:37,120 revitalized the Templar history their 1652 01:14:42,060 --> 01:14:38,820 families were directly a part of it and 1653 01:14:44,430 --> 01:14:42,070 sir Sir John Scott the great great 1654 01:14:46,860 --> 01:14:44,440 grandfather I mean to find out who this 1655 01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:46,870 these guys were in their family it was 1656 01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:48,790 like blowing out teeth and there's 1657 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:50,320 another gentleman producing a book a 1658 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:54,130 wonderful la coin scholar is done some 1659 01:14:57,390 --> 01:14:56,290 of the genealogy but he's found 1660 01:14:58,410 --> 01:14:57,400 everything here in the states and they 1661 01:15:01,320 --> 01:14:58,420 might have found more than me on the 1662 01:15:03,689 --> 01:15:01,330 original family that Scott had a son but 1663 01:15:06,450 --> 01:15:03,699 I'll be able to know I was able to go 1664 01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:06,460 and find out who robert's father was and 1665 01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:08,350 who the line was all the way back to the 1666 01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:10,719 flemings and I had some Mason's help me 1667 01:15:14,910 --> 01:15:12,880 out in Scotland because they didn't know 1668 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:14,920 who their founding master of their Lodge 1669 01:15:20,610 --> 01:15:17,530 was he was so secret that today they 1670 01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:20,620 didn't even know who he was and my work 1671 01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:22,000 allowed them for the first time to 1672 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:24,400 identify George Scott master of the 1673 01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:27,610 canongate lodge in edinboro was the 1674 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:29,260 founding master and that is the father 1675 01:15:35,340 --> 01:15:33,130 of robert scott and this man uh father 1676 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:35,350 and families were behind all the 1677 01:15:39,050 --> 01:15:37,090 shipping lines that were created we 1678 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:39,060 believe it's all the shipping lines in 1679 01:15:43,290 --> 01:15:41,290 Scotland and greenock so now when you 1680 01:15:45,630 --> 01:15:43,300 talk about these famous families going 1681 01:15:47,490 --> 01:15:45,640 to Africa going to the West Indies going 1682 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:47,500 to the East Indies these were some of 1683 01:15:50,820 --> 01:15:49,090 the owners of that of the companies 1684 01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,830 these families directly that's where our 1685 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:52,480 United States flag comes from the 1686 01:15:56,860 --> 01:15:54,170 stripes the origins 1687 01:16:00,340 --> 01:15:56,870 and some of the colors ties into the 1688 01:16:04,570 --> 01:16:00,350 links so what's up no just for just for 1689 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:04,580 people like myself who may not be as 1690 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:06,890 knowledgeable in you know genealogy and 1691 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:09,050 things like that but like for instance i 1692 01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:11,050 know people here in the United States 1693 01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:15,110 named Stewart you know spelled ste WRAT 1694 01:16:25,060 --> 01:16:20,239 and st uart now is anyone with the name 1695 01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:25,070 of Stewart related to that same Stewart 1696 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:28,070 or is there a lesser real quick yes yes 1697 01:16:34,930 --> 01:16:32,050 oh like st uars like why would I no 1698 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:34,940 one's Catholic and that later the other 1699 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:37,130 side is Protestant sault ste w is 1700 01:16:40,959 --> 01:16:38,690 supposed to be the Protestant version 1701 01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:40,969 but that may not necessarily always be 1702 01:16:46,959 --> 01:16:43,280 true but that's what I understand about 1703 01:16:49,419 --> 01:16:46,969 family name and their branches of the 1704 01:16:51,070 --> 01:16:49,429 same thing of the same family yes ain't 1705 01:16:52,780 --> 01:16:51,080 bought the same line but other people 1706 01:16:55,180 --> 01:16:52,790 could have taken different names that 1707 01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:55,190 taken the name too but the original name 1708 01:17:01,300 --> 01:16:58,400 is that I had read that family broke off 1709 01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:01,310 and the Protestant name was taken to st 1710 01:17:07,419 --> 01:17:04,640 w originally was steward and then it 1711 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:07,429 went Stewart so then that's where I am 1712 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:09,650 right about by some of the families how 1713 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:11,570 true it is steward that's kind of 1714 01:17:16,150 --> 01:17:13,610 interesting a steward is like a keeper 1715 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:16,160 of something I keeper of all the kings 1716 01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:19,610 and alder everything stewards that's 1717 01:17:23,620 --> 01:17:21,199 what they were that's what they mean by 1718 01:17:25,780 --> 01:17:23,630 the same token by the same token the 1719 01:17:28,180 --> 01:17:25,790 Sinclair's and the st. Clare's and the 1720 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:28,190 sink leurs they're all the same family 1721 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:31,610 right uh no now there's a whole bunch of 1722 01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,410 them now no a whole bunch of them 1723 01:17:37,090 --> 01:17:35,360 warrant they don't know they had all 1724 01:17:39,220 --> 01:17:37,100 right what I've done just by finding 1725 01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:39,230 these documents and then having the help 1726 01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:41,360 of Fred Fleming if anyone wants to learn 1727 01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:43,310 about these families married to that who 1728 01:17:48,430 --> 01:17:45,110 would be linked to all the Templars a 1729 01:17:51,610 --> 01:17:48,440 Fred L Fleming has a new book hot off 1730 01:17:54,130 --> 01:17:51,620 the press is the number one genealogists 1731 01:17:57,700 --> 01:17:54,140 in ancient history and you will see the 1732 01:18:00,220 --> 01:17:57,710 family connections so I don't see a lot 1733 01:18:02,380 --> 01:18:00,230 of these why we know by DNA I know some 1734 01:18:04,209 --> 01:18:02,390 of the some of the Sinclair families and 1735 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:04,219 we know by DNA that some of these in 1736 01:18:07,780 --> 01:18:07,370 people who are doing a lot of research a 1737 01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:07,790 lot of 1738 01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:10,400 these people are not we don't know who's 1739 01:18:15,190 --> 01:18:12,110 there they don't know who's the original 1740 01:18:17,380 --> 01:18:15,200 it's more confusing and this was the 1741 01:18:19,300 --> 01:18:17,390 same thing with the Scott family they 1742 01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:19,310 couldn't no one could prove I went up 1743 01:18:24,460 --> 01:18:21,920 against the greatest academic in the 1744 01:18:26,410 --> 01:18:24,470 history of Scotland poet sir walter 1745 01:18:28,780 --> 01:18:26,420 scott who could not find this 1746 01:18:32,410 --> 01:18:28,790 information but he actually did he knew 1747 01:18:34,210 --> 01:18:32,420 who it was and so i actually found what 1748 01:18:36,010 --> 01:18:34,220 was always known to exist but nobody 1749 01:18:38,050 --> 01:18:36,020 brought this history for word on who 1750 01:18:40,450 --> 01:18:38,060 they were same thing with us in claire's 1751 01:18:44,380 --> 01:18:40,460 it's twisted in the same sense but 1752 01:18:47,470 --> 01:18:44,390 because i read stuff over and over and 1753 01:18:49,780 --> 01:18:47,480 over i was able to nail down that well 1754 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:49,790 why does white is Fleming had a kid and 1755 01:18:53,230 --> 01:18:51,650 it doesn't say in the genealogy as a son 1756 01:18:54,940 --> 01:18:53,240 it's got daughters but doesn't have a 1757 01:18:56,530 --> 01:18:54,950 son and then when they had the roles 1758 01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:56,540 were checked by fret and I asked him to 1759 01:19:01,570 --> 01:18:58,130 back this up for me the scholar and the 1760 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:01,580 families he addressed this to these 1761 01:19:05,890 --> 01:19:02,930 families and you could read the letter 1762 01:19:08,140 --> 01:19:05,900 on an electric Scotland Gary giannotti 1763 01:19:10,210 --> 01:19:08,150 and and you'll see some of the work that 1764 01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:10,220 I have on these ancient families a lot 1765 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:12,710 of that stuff is I even put my my 1766 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:15,170 inaccurate work on there always and it's 1767 01:19:19,810 --> 01:19:17,210 being noted because this will teach me 1768 01:19:21,310 --> 01:19:19,820 it teaches you how to learn so it shows 1769 01:19:22,570 --> 01:19:21,320 the mistakes teaches how to learn and 1770 01:19:24,940 --> 01:19:22,580 then we're building up so that you'll 1771 01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:24,950 see the corrections but at the bottom of 1772 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:27,710 the link you'll see a genealogy trailer 1773 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:31,730 it's a little small lake and you will 1774 01:19:36,850 --> 01:19:33,050 find it there and you be able to read 1775 01:19:39,700 --> 01:19:36,860 what he wrote and and how he made sure 1776 01:19:44,740 --> 01:19:39,710 this was written to the DNA into all the 1777 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:44,750 stewart families because he's associated 1778 01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:47,810 and they are directly married to the 1779 01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:51,440 same Scots and clears Douglas the list 1780 01:19:57,250 --> 01:19:53,660 goes on and that's where it's very 1781 01:19:59,050 --> 01:19:57,260 important and um I never had much luck 1782 01:20:01,240 --> 01:19:59,060 of many Stewart's ever talking to me 1783 01:20:03,130 --> 01:20:01,250 from these these said what groups 1784 01:20:04,540 --> 01:20:03,140 because a lot of people they don't hear 1785 01:20:07,450 --> 01:20:04,550 the name giannotti and they're like I 1786 01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:07,460 lawyers at the time you know but I grew 1787 01:20:13,210 --> 01:20:09,920 up in a club grew up in a colonial town 1788 01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:13,220 and I was taught to learn and love 1789 01:20:19,150 --> 01:20:15,710 English Scottish in French that's it in 1790 01:20:20,530 --> 01:20:19,160 German too so it was a that's my 1791 01:20:21,549 --> 01:20:20,540 upbringing here these were all the 1792 01:20:23,829 --> 01:20:21,559 outcasts worth 1793 01:20:25,149 --> 01:20:23,839 from there from their countries and the 1794 01:20:28,179 --> 01:20:25,159 same films that turned against their 1795 01:20:32,559 --> 01:20:28,189 families so bitten by the history bug at 1796 01:20:35,379 --> 01:20:32,569 a young age so yeah yeah oh yeah it's 1797 01:20:38,409 --> 01:20:35,389 great you know it's I didn't get in the 1798 01:20:41,290 --> 01:20:38,419 history or excited about a history till 1799 01:20:43,299 --> 01:20:41,300 much much later in life it always seems 1800 01:20:45,459 --> 01:20:43,309 so boring and how is it relevant to me 1801 01:20:47,109 --> 01:20:45,469 now as a kid but now it's like oh my 1802 01:20:51,790 --> 01:20:47,119 goodness it's the most interesting thing 1803 01:20:55,779 --> 01:20:51,800 ever and it's amazing how these families 1804 01:20:58,239 --> 01:20:55,789 are all related and how so many of us 1805 01:21:02,770 --> 01:20:58,249 are related to these lines and may not 1806 01:21:05,379 --> 01:21:02,780 even know it and then it seems as though 1807 01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:05,389 you know somebody was was you know 1808 01:21:10,719 --> 01:21:08,209 planning this country out it wasn't just 1809 01:21:12,879 --> 01:21:10,729 old it at least it doesn't seem to me 1810 01:21:14,109 --> 01:21:12,889 like oh we're just you know a bunch of 1811 01:21:16,540 --> 01:21:14,119 us are going to jump on a boat and 1812 01:21:19,329 --> 01:21:16,550 escape it seemed like this there was a 1813 01:21:23,109 --> 01:21:19,339 very very specific plan and I know you 1814 01:21:25,149 --> 01:21:23,119 mentioned that the Jacob i'ts but I know 1815 01:21:28,979 --> 01:21:25,159 that that was you know sort of part of 1816 01:21:33,489 --> 01:21:28,989 the Roman Catholic group that wanted to 1817 01:21:36,759 --> 01:21:33,499 reinstate James the second and I guess 1818 01:21:42,250 --> 01:21:36,769 Jacob us is like the you know another 1819 01:21:44,020 --> 01:21:42,260 name for James and then but to me it 1820 01:21:48,250 --> 01:21:44,030 seemed like a lot of these people were 1821 01:21:52,839 --> 01:21:48,260 coming sort of in spite of the church 1822 01:21:56,349 --> 01:21:52,849 and possibly to you know for religious 1823 01:21:58,389 --> 01:21:56,359 freedom like we've always heard some of 1824 01:22:01,809 --> 01:21:58,399 these guys like George Washington and 1825 01:22:05,139 --> 01:22:01,819 Thomas Jefferson apparently weren't 1826 01:22:09,459 --> 01:22:05,149 exactly Christians until possibly they 1827 01:22:10,869 --> 01:22:09,469 on their deathbeds I've heard yeah do 1828 01:22:13,839 --> 01:22:10,879 you think it really did have something 1829 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:13,849 to do with these these families created 1830 01:22:18,939 --> 01:22:16,489 these specific families built Kilwinning 1831 01:22:21,579 --> 01:22:18,949 Abbey connect to the creation of masonry 1832 01:22:23,229 --> 01:22:21,589 the silent soul is a mess we're gonna 1833 01:22:25,149 --> 01:22:23,239 have to we're gonna have to continue 1834 01:22:26,559 --> 01:22:25,159 this another time guys I've been told 1835 01:22:29,589 --> 01:22:26,569 the music is playing and we got to get 1836 01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:29,599 out of here oh so thank you so much Gary 1837 01:22:33,890 --> 01:22:32,040 giannotti court lindell and everybody 1838 01:22:36,410 --> 01:22:33,900 this thing I appreciate especially you 1839 01:22:38,030 --> 01:22:36,420 guys in chat room thanks for sticking 1840 01:22:55,899 --> 01:22:38,040 with us we love you and we'll see you 1841 01:22:55,909 --> 01:23:00,450 I